Acessability: Good or bad?

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Fri, 08/31/2007 - 11:25

dragon_6860

Hey all, a bit of a poser for everyone here...One thing I've always tried to do with my stories is make them so they're good stories, with inflation, or basically, if the inflation was removed, then they story would still function at some level. Now, I've been thinking about that, and I'm wondering if that may be more of a negative than a positive. It's good to be accessible, but should that be something that I worry about, and is it decreaseing the quality of my stories?

To use an example, Johnny Swell did a picture of a mermaid maybe a year or so ago, very well done, and of course, boobs the size of beach balls. I showed this photo to a girl I was dating at the time, and she was very impressed at the quality of the drawing, and liked it a lot. To my mind, that drawing was very accessible, if you removed the boobs, it'd still be a good drawing, and people would like it. I guess what I'm asking is do you think it's important for a piece of work to be able to stand on it's own, or should it be more focused on the inflation community? Anywho, just some random thoughts and questions.

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Fri, 08/31/2007 - 14:13

doubleintegral

I'm guessing that the responses will be half "good" and half "bad". Seems like some (mostly other writers) can appreciate a good story that stands on its own merit, while others couldn't care less and just want the girl blown up.

Count me in the "good" camp. It's something I try to do with my stories, and while it takes a lot of effort, I think it pays off in the end.

That's not to say that short and to-the-point stories don't have their place in the community. Hell, I've written a few myself. They're easy to write and don't take much time, whereas longer stories are very time-consuming and mentally exhausting for me. But I like to think of reading the short stories as getting my paycheck... it's what we subsist on, what gets us by in our fetish. Reading the longer, more well-developed stories is like getting my Christmas bonus, an extra treat that only comes around every so often.

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Fri, 08/31/2007 - 15:55

dragon_6860

Very true...Also, I don't think people may want to read a huge opus for an inflation story, they may just want a quick, fun story.

No, I would not want to live in a world without dragons, as I would not want to live in a world without magic, for that is a world without mystery, and that is a world without faith.

Fri, 08/31/2007 - 16:47

CattyN

Yup You caught me there Dragon_6960... I don't like long-winded 15 page detailed descriptions of the characters history, i just want the inflation. I rarely read stories as it is, but when I do i tend to just skip the first several paragraphs and find the "oh no! what's happening to me" line that starts the inflation sensation.

Fri, 08/31/2007 - 18:52

deleted_20091014

I think it's important to hit the happy medium. A story with a bit of plot and intrigue but that is mostly about the inflation.

On the shorter end of the spectrum, stories that are just 'in-inflate-out' have some value, after all it's what we're here for, it's a treat to see inflation happen in a great setting and all, but it's quicker and can be very satisfying to just cut to the chase.

I'm not keen on the longer end of the spectrum though. Epic sagas where inflation only seems to play a minor role don't do it for me. It sometimes seems the writer has perhaps worked too hard to make the storie not read simply as a fetish story, but unless people will genuinely want to read the backstory (for this the backstory has to be very good in it's own right, not just a load of tedious fanfic) then you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot a little. If you write a long story then it should be a long inflation story, not a long story with a normal length of inflation.

While it's admirable to try to introduce that intrigue into your stories, and it will make them fuller works of art, don't overdo it... don't shy away from writing a story that, whatever the length, is all about the inflation... after all, that's the one thing that ties us together.

Fri, 08/31/2007 - 18:59

Vertigo

I've talked about the balance of plot and inflation with a friend of mine, and I hold the belief that if your mind is used to a specific character being skinny, then the effect it will have when that character inflates will be magnified. This is why I enjoy seeing inflation-based fanart, in particular, and also why I like the stories with a bit of character development beforehand.

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Sat, 09/01/2007 - 18:37

Auriga

AFM, I think : the plot (characters, storyline et.c.) goes first. Story must be its own world to immerse into. World of authors fantasy. Without it story seems like a sketch with an poorly drawn inflated figure on the virgin-white background. There is a rule, every good artist knows it "No empty backgrounds!" This can be applied to literature.
However, no background at all is better than poorly writen one like "She had great boobs, besides that she was a bitch so everyone hated her".

Sun, 09/02/2007 - 04:05

WakkaFan

I've found I write a story better when I invest more time into the story than the balloon parts. I think it has you focus on the other parts of writing.

Say you wrote the inflation part the best but the rest of the story was really bad and hard to follow. Sure some people would just say "Well I enjoyed the part I came for" and not care about the other parts, but I would rather have a story where I could invest my feelings and thoughts into the characters throughout the whole story.

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Sun, 09/02/2007 - 04:09

doubleintegral

carnatic wrote:

I think it's important to hit the happy medium.
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I'm not keen on the longer end of the spectrum though. Epic sagas where inflation only seems to play a minor role don't do it for me. It sometimes seems the writer has perhaps worked too hard to make the storie not read simply as a fetish story, but unless people will genuinely want to read the backstory (for this the backstory has to be very good in it's own right, not just a load of tedious fanfic) then you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot a little. If you write a long story then it should be a long inflation story, not a long story with a normal length of inflation.

But aren't long stories the happy medium? Readers with a preference for shorter stories could just skip to the inflation part.

With a short story, someone who likes longer stories has no options regarding a more developed plot or deeper characters, unless they write it into the story themselves.

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Sun, 09/02/2007 - 14:10

#10

deleted_20091014

readers with a preference for short stories only skip to the inflation when the rest of the story is tedious and poorly related to the inflation (which, for us, is the meat of the story and should really be the main event in the plot).

When you say 'aren't long stories the happy medium' I don't know what you consider to be a long story. What I mean are total epics with many chapters and only a few paragraphs of inflation. They may be great reads (or they may be tedious fanfic) but the point is, the central importance of the inflation can be lost when there is too much other plot.

A well written 'long' inflation story (key word there being inflation) will still have a certain amount of it taken up by inflation. Even a really long story can be a good inflation story if it remains an inflation story. The non-inflation parts should build up well to the inflation... set the atmosphere, build up the characters and suchlike... It shouldn't be, as Auriga said, 5 pages of 'she had great boobs but she was a bitch'

Sun, 09/02/2007 - 18:30

#11

Fukureru-Shogun

I hate to sound like a hack ( Which I am) but I don't write long stories at all- I know what inflation stories are for, so I try to get to the point...

Some writers are amazing, and can craft long, amazing stories for inflation- I'm just not among them.

Mon, 09/03/2007 - 13:25

#12

dragon_6860

Well, me for one, I always think that if you care about the characters, then the inflation will be more interesting. I can't make a good piece of characterization in a short story, so most of my stories tend to be longer. But that's just me, and I do know that if a story is too long, then people will lose interest unless you're a ungodly good writer, and as I'm not, heh, I try to make a happy medium. but that's always hard :)

No, I would not want to live in a world without dragons, as I would not want to live in a world without magic, for that is a world without mystery, and that is a world without faith.

Tue, 09/04/2007 - 04:28

#13

NEssex

Personally, I like inflation that happens for a reason. If there's no plot set-up for the inflation, it just bores me.
Secondly, I like more than just inflation, so I need to see characterization in the stories. I like it when the person deserves what they get. Or, that the person is a poor victim. Some sort of characterization that gives me a feel for the character.

As far as length, for something life an inflation story, I prefer shorter stories, so I don't lose interest in the fact that I'm reading the story solely for sexual fetish interests, so shorter to medium length stories are ideal, but yeah, if they're too short, they'll be too simplistic to include plot and characterization.

Tue, 09/04/2007 - 07:08

#14

Auriga

In addition: stories with a plot, storyline, characters, good language, sence of humour et.c. are a suitable way for invitation to the inflation community.
Just for example: there is a nice girl, and you are going to explain her the stuff.
Simple deffinition like "dreaming about living inflatables" doesn't seem appealing. As well as 99% pics and short stories, where author just gets to the point. There should be a way to push her immagination in the right way. There shouldn't be 3 pages of inflation, but much about how should feel such people, what do they think et.c. Reader tends to put him(her)self in the shoes of character... and that is first step into rabbits hole.
Numerous girls (friends of mine mostly) have read my writings. Some (about 10%-20%) have found idea of inflation interesting and creative, so later I could RP with some of them. Most just said the story is nice / they want sequell / I have some talent et.c. None have said I'm weird. I just couldn't risk gaining such a reputation in eyes of people, who know me in real life.

Tue, 09/04/2007 - 11:08

#15

dragon_6860

Ahh, an excellent point Auriga, didn't even think of that. A slow burn kinda story would deffently be a better way to introduce a person, rather then a short story where the author gets right to the point :)

No, I would not want to live in a world without dragons, as I would not want to live in a world without magic, for that is a world without mystery, and that is a world without faith.

Wed, 09/05/2007 - 15:31

#16

darth_clone19

When I read the story, I dont care if it can stand on its own. I just want the inflation.

BUT, WHILE Im reading it, Ill pick up some real literary qualities in it, and think it really could stand on its own, as bizarre fiction, bordering as a weird morality tale.

The classic inflation stories were like that, not for the most part, but a good chunk of it. LVKane has written a couple stories, like Ringmaster and The Duel that could stand on their own beyond fetish fiction.

Its certainly a treat when these kind of stories are uploaded, and some REALLY know how to pull it off.

But, I also dont think it should be mandatory. Its all on the ability of the writer. If he cant pull it off, he shouldnt try to. Some people here have real literary skills, and its awesome when they put it to use on inflation stories.

The positive thing with these stories is that the fetish, sexy elements are there. You just have to have the fetish in order to get them.

Look at the Malabar commercial thread. That commercial for me is VERY sexy. The other girls expressions as the butt on the other one swells...see, its a perfectly normal commercial, that would only excite someone with a fetish lol People that dont have a butt or expansion fetish, just find it funny.

About the backgrounds in stories...I want to make something clear. Some people confuse background with "boring-going-knowhere" stories. Dont confuse both things.

An inflation without background is just a description of inflation, and thats no fun. The inflatee, and inflator, have to be somebody, there has to be a reason for the inflation. Thats why we read stories in the first place: to see our fantasies play out. We all have preferences, and look for them in the stories.

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Sun, 09/09/2007 - 19:43

#17

Inflate123

Never let the inflation be a gimmick. The porn should not replace the writer's skill.

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Wed, 09/12/2007 - 06:41

#18

SvenS

I've been meaning to post to this thread but haven't had a chance until now.

I, too, sometimes find myself skipping ahead in some stories. Whenever that happens, it is because there is no reason for me to care one whit about anyone in it. And ultimately, because of that even the good bits aren't so good. More often than not I find myself sighing a big "WHATEVER" when I have to skip through a story because I am inevitabley disappointed in those supposed good bits.

The story should be able to stand on its own without the inflation, but its length is not the point. A story should be only as long as it needs to be to tell itself and no longer. A good story teases the emotions, the senses, and the imagination. It makes you care about what is happening. A good story draws you in and makes you feel as if you are standing there as it unfolds and it makes you angry at the characters for their flaws, cry in empathy with their sorrows, and share in the joy of their triumphs. It doesn't have to do all of these things, but it damn well should hit upon some of them - or at least try.

Thu, 09/13/2007 - 04:43

#19

darth_clone19

I personally like to share in the triumph of an inflator :)

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Sun, 09/16/2007 - 00:53

#20

Inflate123

SvenS wrote:

The story should be able to stand on its own without the inflation, but its length is not the point.

Agreed. I have read really achingly long boring stories that are tributes to the writer's ego; they feel like they have to justify their kink with an epic tale, and if they can't make it epic in scope, they can at least make it epic in length.

Brevity is the soul of wit. The absolute best writing, every time, is the most efficient example. Even when you look at things like the Harry Potter books...yes, they span 700 pages or more...but something happens, something is learned on pretty much every page.

Say it with less and you'll say it better. Always.

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Sun, 09/16/2007 - 14:49

#21

deleted_20091014

The pace of the writing has to match the pace of the story... if it takes 5 minutes of reading to describe something that only takes a second or two of story time. (perfect example is describing what a character looks like when they enter a scene) then the pace won't work. Similarly if you sum up something that lasts for a few minutes minutes in about two lines of text (such as a stage of the inflation) then the pace will suffer.

We can't always match pace exactly, sometimes the inflation will take place over an hour or something, no short story should take an hour to read. But by the style of writing you can make the fact that an hour of inflation has happened more believable.

Mon, 09/17/2007 - 14:12

#22

doubleintegral

carnatic wrote:

if it takes 5 minutes of reading to describe something that only takes a second or two of story time.

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Mon, 09/17/2007 - 16:21

#23

darth_clone19

Tolkien only did that in Fellowship, and in the journey to Rivendell. He cut back with the descriptions afterwards (dont get caught up in this, its highly off topic)

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