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Personal ? 4 Writers & Artists

Wasn't sure whether to put this in the Writers forum or the Artists, so here it is...

Often when someone posts a request from an artist or writer, I see the person get told, "Try writing/drawing it yourself." But here's the question: Can you get off on your own stuff? For some reason, trying to get off on my own work is a lot like trying to tickle myself, if you'll forgive the analogy (and even if you don't). I can get into it while I'm creating it, but once it's set in stone, it never carries the same punch it had during its gestation (forgive the expression).

I asked this of my friend BalloonFan, and (while I got a different answer when the subject arose a year or so later) we seemed to agree that our own work didn't have the same effect as someone else's, unless a long time passed and we "forgot" the work a bit. (You'd think with my legendarily bad memory, that would be easy for me.) But even then, I prefer to read the same words written by someone else than those written by me. So... how unusual is this?

I want to pop so much I could burst!

NEssex

I really have no idea how unusual it is. I think it's all personal preference.
I relate to a large extent.

I should say, for me, it's the finished product that I have trouble getting into.
It's the act of creating the story that I enjoy. That's where the excitement is for me, being so personally involved. I feel a closeness with my own work that I don't feel with others' work, but once I've finished my story, it's as if the characters who were so close to me have gone on to live their own lives.

There's the element of tribal magic in the writing, where you bring the internal world into the external world, and it's a form of exorcism.
I'd say your thoughts make sense in that context. The charged sigil affects the consciousness of others after you've charged it.
You're performing the spell correctly when you say that once it's complete, the thoughts no longer affect you in the same manner.

I like reading others' stories just to see their imagination.

Fukureru-Shogun

I have to agree with Alec- I like writing my own things, but I don't really get the same feeling from reading my own work.

Omoikane

Alec is right. Writing or drawing your own work is great, but when you look at others work, their is a chance to be surprised by something. You can come across new methods or even a twist on the things you already like, and that is great to see.
For example... Bighorse's recent drawing of the girl's scuba suit swelled because she took a leak in it was great. I always had a idea of using urine, but seeing someone with the idea is awesome.
Let allow, with commissions and such, another's artists perspective can bring out a new thrill about something you envision.

However... I'm not promoting people to bug artists to draw their fantasies.

darth_clone19
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I've been thinking about this for years, but never found the right words to express it in a thread or something. I completely relate to EVERYTHING you say, and agree. (Also, it is incredibly honest to talk about it too, and thats one of the reasons why I didnt haha)

Some time has to pass before I find my own stuff appealing. But its largely boring. I know the words, how everything happens, and while its a turn on both when Im writing or if I havent read it in a while, its just no fun. Part of the fun of it, In my opinion, is to constantly be reminded that someone else likes this enough to write about it just like you do! :)

AlecDeluxe wrote:
Wasn't sure whether to put this in the Writers forum or the Artists, so here it is...

Often when someone posts a request from an artist or writer, I see the person get told, "Try writing/drawing it yourself." But here's the question: Can you get off on your own stuff? For some reason, trying to get off on my own work is a lot like trying to tickle myself, if you'll forgive the analogy (and even if you don't). I can get into it while I'm creating it, but once it's set in stone, it never carries the same punch it had during its gestation (forgive the expression).

I asked this of my friend BalloonFan, and (while I got a different answer when the subject arose a year or so later) we seemed to agree that our own work didn't have the same effect as someone else's, unless a long time passed and we "forgot" the work a bit. (You'd think with my legendarily bad memory, that would be easy for me.) But even then, I prefer to read the same words written by someone else than those written by me. So... how unusual is this?

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deleted_20091014

Am I an exception in getting off on my own stuff then? It's certainly a lot of fun writing/drawing it, but that doesn't diminish so much when it's done. I get a little thrill when female inflationists complement my work too.

I've always thought of this as being because my own work is most closely related to my own turn-ons of everyone... occasionally though someone else does something that is just perfect for me.

nineteenthly

I really get off on my own stuff, that is what i write. I can't draw at all, so that doesn't really work. However, i sort of feel i ought to be more flexible and manage to get off on what other people want as well, if you see what i mean.

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Mentalyinsane
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I too, can't get off on my own writing (some of you know me on DA as Noitalfin). And... you guys pretty much already said what I was going to say.

The name's Noitalfin, http://noitalfin.deviantart.com/

MaximillianZetoX

Ya know...I've been thinking that for years myself. I kinda...ya know...feel it when I'm writing it and I sometimes do get giddy while I'm writing a story because there's still unpredictability to it. Once it's done I find myself un-err...whatever that word is where you don't feel aroused. Un-aroused there we go. I thought it was kind of weird but seemed normal to me. I never thought about asking a question like this. Cool.

Never let those who dislike what you enjoy get to you. If they won't bother to understand than it's not worth your time. Hold your head up high and be proud for what you like!

Garfunkl

Alec i completely agree. I do enjoy my own stuff but it is much more powerful when it comes from a mind that isn't my own....and especially from a female mind :D

Inflate123
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I am one of those people who always tries to encourage people to write their own fantasies, and you're right, it's harder to get a rush/get off to the stuff I write. But honestly, I find I only really write when I'm really aroused, and writing the story sort of becomes its own event. Sometimes I go back to older stories that I'd written but left for a while and I do get a charge, but the self-tickling analogy is a very good one. We're all in it for the surprise of not knowing exactly what's going to happen next or how the scene will unfold. We're all using the same ingredients, so it's all about the spice in the recipe.

Mostly, I encourage people to write their own fantasties because of something Jimi Hendrix said. Paraphrasing, because I do not have the quote in front of me: "It's like there's a sound in my head, and if I don't get it out, nobody will." We're all inspired and very attached to our fantasies -- yes, we like to see other people's spins on the same concept, but our own vision is unique. Nobody else can give us exactly what we want except ourselves. So asking someone to write your fantasy is inherently flawed; it's never going to be as good as it would be, because you're not the director of the scene. It will only be easier, because you didn't go through the effort or writing it yourself, but it's not your expression of your fantasy. It's an expression of a fantasy LIKE yours.

So rather than having some newbie come in and say "Hey, write me something," and it turning into one of those "everything on the internet is free" leeching things, I want EVERYBODY to express their fantasy in whatever form they can. And what's more, you're making a very simple statement that other people might react to: "You know what gets me off? You know what I'd like to see more of? This." That in turn inspires other people to say "You know, I had an idea like that, but it was a little different..." and then you're off to the races as a community of creative people. What you put out into the world often grows, but it doesn't get the chance if you never release it.

We all know English. It's as good and convenient and utterly free a starting point as any. And yeah, your satisfaction for writing a story doesn't come from a wank, but from the satisfaction of knowing you've made a statement about what you want to see in the community.

And yes, I think about this too much! :D

darth_clone19
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I originally started writing because of what Inflate said. I get discouraged because I feel not enough people are reacting to what Ive written, but thats normal. I certainly dont want to have to say "I write what I want to read" forever. I mean, I do want to see other people's stories with the themes I like :p Like the tickling yourself thing. I actually tried yesterday. Its like my brain knows it has to laugh, but finds no reason to, cuz Im doing it to myself :p

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hfilled

Have to go with Alec here. If a long time passes between readings, then my "art" has some potential for arousal for me...but typing it is waaaaay more arousing...but reading other's work is best. Now, if someone wanted to take a concept of mine and run with it, that would be even better (and terribly flattering)...

doubleintegral
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Short answer:

Yes, I can enjoy my stories as much as any others.

Long answer:

It really depends on my mood sometimes. Since I don't have many stories that feature the inflatee becoming sexually aroused, if I am in the mood for such a story I will turn to another author's work.

I also sometimes make changes to other authors' stories to better suit my personal tastes. So while it's ultimately someone else's work, it has my own spin, and I usually like it as much if not more than the original story.

kuumuzu

Wow, this a very open and honest topic.
I'm a bit inbetween as far as the question goes though...

I can become extremely aroused whilst drawing if it really takes shape the way I envisioned it, however sometimes it might take a while for the drawing to take any form or go right at all... that can be a huge 'let down'.
I've written several stories for myself and they always please no matter what. I think it's because they're very personal. Also why I've never posted any stories... sorry. ^_^;

The excitement in the drawing seems to have died once again though. I don't understand why, it's not like I've been drawing lots of inflation art recently or being pestered to do so by people... just seems weird.
However, could be that I'm putting almost too much effort into building my Inflation Assassin character and it's become like a job. Jobs tire me.
Needless to say though she IS still sitting on my shoulder (in chibi form) telling me to get my ass in gear.

I feel, what is this? Is this... Excitement?!
No, this is..................................

PASSION! ^_^

captainneil

I was always with the "Can't find what you want, do/make it yourself" thing. My own art I can't get enough of. But as far as getting off to it. Well.
Getting turned on by it: Yes I have.
Anything after arousal: No.

Who what where when why to this? I just don't. No further statements on that part.

I may be going off on a tangent below here ^_^;

The art thing of loving one's own art over others is why I felt like I never really fit in with art places. I can't find anything I really like enough to save or talk about.

Reading this, someone is bound to say something along the lines of that "You feel that you're better than everyone else."
To which my reply is "No I actually am not."
I've got an inferiority complex that I can't drop, but I'm not going into detail any further on that here. This isn't a help line for depression.

I am going to say something fairly obvious about myself to why I don't find much interesting: I'm picky. Stingy requirements. Particular. PITA. Whatever you want to call it.

But what does this all mean?
Basically this: "I draw what I love." and "I draw what I want to see."
I have an addiction to cuteness, bubbles, and specific demihumans. And on top of that, my preference for inflation is pretty strict. And this can go on further down to the line style or even small features like the pupil of the eye.
Very few images outside of my own art are enough to even spark that rarely aroused interest in me for the strict turn-ons I have.

Could it be that other artists are becoming bland? - No!
They are drawing what they like. To each his own, right?

Yea, I'll probably never have a GF at this rate being this picky. But that's how I am.

So I feel that if you create something you like. Do as you feel with it, within reason.

Okay... weird, possibly off topic tangent over. Sorry for the inconvienence.

Your neighborhood friendly inflation content lurker. ^_^

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Omoikane
kuumuzu wrote:
The excitement in the drawing seems to have died once again though. I don't understand why, it's not like I've been drawing lots of inflation art recently or being pestered to do so by people... just seems weird.
However, could be that I'm putting almost too much effort into building my Inflation Assassin character and it's become like a job. Jobs tire me.
Needless to say though she IS still sitting on my shoulder (in chibi form) telling me to get my ass in gear.

I can totally understand. My creativity has died also. It's however more my lifestyle though... living on a couch and having near zero privacy have sapped my creative energies. I slowly getting back into doing things though, especially after I finish all my school projects.

Getting back on subject though: This is a good topic.

And most have been stating: one's work is at it's arousal peak to the author during its creation. Its true for me, as well.

And other's work is great, but sometimes you have to find what you like to get aroused. Me, I like about everything, but when I come across some male inflation (especially well-drawn art), it certainly gets me aroused. In the end, it's all depends on a person's taste. ^_^

airtankgirl5
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I certainly enjoy mine. I write the stories I want to read, so yes.

Joe_Monday

I've written a few inflation stories, and have a couple more in-progress; sometimes it's the case of "can't find what I want, so I'll create it myself," and sometimes it's a story in my head just demanding to get let out. Either way, the process of creating it and getting it into written form carries it's own very intense form of arousal for me. When it's finished, I still enjoy going back to it, especially if it's based on a recurring fantasy, but it's a different sort of thrill.

I love reading/looking at other people's stories and art; they see things in ways that I don't. That sort of new perspective always helps my creative and fantasy images.

uruseiranma

I'm with a number of people in that I create the art that noone else will do.

I wish some who see my art out there really would sometimes draw or write what they want to see. Instead of trying to drop little hints as to what they want to see.

One of the first things I did was some Disney characters inflated or bleuberried. I hadn't seen anyone attempt that. And some of those that I did seemed to have sparked a 'cool' interest from some people out there. One of them hit one person's ideas right on the button, which was kind of cool.

Though the other day, I did draw a very adult expansion-type image that had been festering in my head for some time. The subject was very touchy, and I doubt anyone would ever consider drawing what I did. So, I now have that out of my system, until I decide to do it to a few other characters.

Though I must admit-people demanding that you do every little thing left and right is enough to make one sometimes throw up their hands and scream: 'Fine! You don't like what I'm doing, I'll just stop it! There!'

This suspense is terrible. I hope it will last- Oscar Wilde