I've been inflating a number of years now and have begun to feel unsatisfied with how large i can get. I inflate often and get to a good size but i still feel people ought to be able to get bigger. I feel it's time serious research be done into how one can inflate themselves larger. Recently I've come into a good amount of money, which I've decided to use to perform inflation experiments on myself.
I need proposals from you as to what types of experiments I should do. I have a nearly inexhaustible budget which could go towards pharmaceuticals, accessories, and surgery. Over the course of this inflation venture I'll be keeping you updated with photographs of my progress and my conclusions. I'd like to advance real like belly inflation through these experiments and to take inflation to a new place.
A Scientific Proposal
I vote for pharmaceuticals! Not really sure how its possible, but as long as it doesn't involve surgery (cuz i can't afford that) shoot for the moon!
Assuming this is on the up and up (sorry, I get skeptical when I hear things like "inexhaustible budget") The simplest route would be to go with some sort implant (similar to a breast implant, but sized for the belly) that can inflate and deflate through a small tube (or syringe through the skin.)
Drake Wins
Assuming this is on the up and up (sorry, I get skeptical when I hear things like "inexhaustible budget") The simplest route would be to go with some sort implant (similar to a breast implant, but sized for the belly) that can inflate and deflate through a small tube (or syringe through the skin.)
I always thought that would be the route to take, everything else sounds abit sci-fi.
I feel a little sceptical about this, but as a thought experiment, i would vote for an abdominal implant first of all. Beyond that, i would be very interested in the action of injections of matrix metalloproteinases, which make connective tissue more compliant, but since they're proteins you'd have to choose a human one and i don't know how available that would be. Besides that, you might want to look into using something like hyoscine injections over a short term period. I've been thinking for a while that a course of MMPs over a few weeks followed by something like hyoscine or maybe viburnin (if it's safe). You would seriously need to know what you were doing though.
My initial thoughts were to go the pharmaceutical route. I'm curious to see if muscle relaxers would help the belly skin stretch more. Does anyone else have any ideas to boost the elasticity of skin?
skin is not a muscle. so muscle relaxers would have no effect.
No, they do have an effect because i've tried herbal ones several hours before. You get fewer bloating cramps and you get bigger. The skin's not a muscle, that's true, but it's less significant than you might think. The abdominal wall is several layers of skeletal muscles and the intestines and stomach are mainly layers of smooth muscle. Skin is already a lot more elastic because it has to stretch all the time without going baggy, so at the beginning the limiting factor is not the skin but the abdominal organs and the muscles of the abdominal wall. That's why i suggested viburnin, which relaxes both skeletal and smooth (organ wall) muscle.
When you have a barium enema or colonoscopy, they inject hyoscine in order to make the colon more inflatable, so there's mainstream medical backup for the thought. You would also get more expansion if you made the connective tissue more flexible, which is why i suggested MMPs.
And yes, i did have a couple more thoughts. One was to insufflate the peritoneum with nitrogen. That would make you quite vulnerable to temperature changes if you did it long term, but the advantage would be that if you did it repeatedly and slowly, over a period of weeks or months, you would just get bigger and bigger because your skin would grow to accommodate the gas. The other is from skin graft procedures where they insert a balloon immediately under the forehead skin and gradually inflate it to generate extra skin to transplant onto burns. If you did that immediately under abdominal skin, you could get quite big, but again it would be quite slow. However, you could also take it out again and use the extra space to inflate the rest of yourself into.
The advantage of these slow methods would be lower risks of gas embolism, but it would be important not to go beyond normal blood pressure or you'd get necrosis, gangrene and maybe even crush syndrome, and you don't want those.
Drake Wins
Yes, indeed he does.
However I'm still amazed with the amount of scientific and medical knowledge that some of the members of this forum have.
It truly is astounding.
I can only tip a hat to the future. ^_^
How exactly would i go about insufflating the peritoneum with nitrogen? Would i need to use a syringe to fill up? Are these items easily obtained? And explain more about being sensitive to temperature changes.
How exactly would i go about insufflating the peritoneum with nitrogen? Would i need to use a syringe to fill up? Are these items easily obtained? And explain more about being sensitive to temperature changes.
Oh god please DO NOT try it. Stick to the traditional methods please...
No, they do have an effect because i've tried herbal ones several hours before. You get fewer bloating cramps and you get bigger. The skin's not a muscle, that's true, but it's less significant than you might think. The abdominal wall is several layers of skeletal muscles and the intestines and stomach are mainly layers of smooth muscle. Skin is already a lot more elastic because it has to stretch all the time without going baggy, so at the beginning the limiting factor is not the skin but the abdominal organs and the muscles of the abdominal wall. That's why i suggested viburnin, which relaxes both skeletal and smooth (organ wall) muscle.When you have a barium enema or colonoscopy, they inject hyoscine in order to make the colon more inflatable, so there's mainstream medical backup for the thought. You would also get more expansion if you made the connective tissue more flexible, which is why i suggested MMPs.
And yes, i did have a couple more thoughts. One was to insufflate the peritoneum with nitrogen. That would make you quite vulnerable to temperature changes if you did it long term, but the advantage would be that if you did it repeatedly and slowly, over a period of weeks or months, you would just get bigger and bigger because your skin would grow to accommodate the gas. The other is from skin graft procedures where they insert a balloon immediately under the forehead skin and gradually inflate it to generate extra skin to transplant onto burns. If you did that immediately under abdominal skin, you could get quite big, but again it would be quite slow. However, you could also take it out again and use the extra space to inflate the rest of yourself into.
The advantage of these slow methods would be lower risks of gas embolism, but it would be important not to go beyond normal blood pressure or you'd get necrosis, gangrene and maybe even crush syndrome, and you don't want those.
So what you're saying is, muscle relaxers don't affect the skin. :wink:
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If you did that, it would be in operating theatre conditions. I wouldn't try it unless you're actually in an operating theatre with appropriately trained staff, i.e. a surgeon. This is not a job for an amateur so much as someone with about a decade's surgical experience, and other surgical staff, with sterile technique and the usual criteria for operating theatres, such as the lighting, positive pressure from above, no windows, minimal horizontal surfaces and all the rest of the stuff. If any of that information isn't old hat to you, don't even dream of trying it. I wouldn't. Otherwise you WILL die in a world of pain.
The same applies to injections. They're a long way from being trivial too, hence the problems with illegal IV drug use. You can kill yourself in a few seconds with a botched injection.
No, muscle relaxants have little effect on the skin. The only thing they'd influence is the hairs, which wouldn't stand up.
What i meant about temperature is this. The core body is 37 degrees C. If it drops below 35, that's hypothermia and can be fatal. Since the body is mainly water, it has a very stable temperature and doesn't deviate easily. If you introduce a large quantity of gas, the body is no longer mainly water and is more susceptible to fluctuations in temperature, usually downward because there aren't many environments where we are colder than our surroundings. That means that introducing any fluid at room temperature to the body forces the body to heat it up, and the more of that fluid there is, the harder it has to work. Therefore, in reality inflation with any gas or water at room temperature would cause hypothermia if it was done too fast. However, compressed gas goes up in temperature, so that would need to be monitored to avoid overheating too. The whole situation is very complicated from a physics point of view.
As you might know, i'm writing a fantasy inflation manual, and the apparatus i've imagined humidifies the gas and keeps it at body temperature. It's sort of OCD of me to do it like that, but i have to try to convince myself that it's possible for it to work.
Riddle me this: Besides satisfying your own (growing) fetishistic desire, what other use will these experiments have? Because I don't think I'm fond of science without a proper moral goal.