Why shatter to pieces?

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Auriga
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Why shatter to pieces?

In popping stories/art bursting person is always turned into heaps of shreds. That doesn't make sense, as if one part of overstretched skin gives up, pressure will drop. So there should be one place that is torn, not even separated from rest of body.
This leaves option of healing/applying patches, and reinflating.

Guys and gals that like popping, do you think burst should be final 'explosion' completely destroying inflatee? Or more humane and also physically realistic option is better?

Auriga
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Thats also good for narrative. The popped one should be able to tell her/his story, if we wish to listen about being inflated, i.e. from inflatee point of view.

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Fukureru-Shogun

I think there is something more dramatic about someone being blown to pieces. When you have a pop, you tend to want it to be big.

You're idea has a lot of merit though, especially amongst the popping = snuff crowd.

nineteenthly

I think that simply springing a leak would be a let-down, literally, though it would also make it potentially survivable. I think a subcutaneous inflation ending in a leak would be potentially non-fatal, for example.

There are, however, also the mechanics involved. A gradual inflation is more likely to end in a leak rather than a pop, but considering it realistically, gradual inflation would also kill the inflatee before they burst because of embolisms and haemorrhage, whereas sudden inflation might mean consciousness persists right up until they explode, and it would also mean an actual explosion, which is of course an orgasm.

I personally prefer the best of both worlds, in that i like the idea of gradual inflation to the point where survival becomes an immediate issue, at which point the pressure is suddenly built up and you pop before you lose consciousness.

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hfilled
nineteenthly wrote:
I think that simply springing a leak would be a let-down, literally, though it would also make it potentially survivable. I think a subcutaneous inflation ending in a leak would be potentially non-fatal, for example.

There are, however, also the mechanics involved. A gradual inflation is more likely to end in a leak rather than a pop, but considering it realistically, gradual inflation would also kill the inflatee before they burst because of embolisms and haemorrhage, whereas sudden inflation might mean consciousness persists right up until they explode, and it would also mean an actual explosion, which is of course an orgasm.

I personally prefer the best of both worlds, in that i like the idea of gradual inflation to the point where survival becomes an immediate issue, at which point the pressure is suddenly built up and you pop before you lose consciousness.

Yeah, what he said, but more so.

Auriga
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As for me, I suppose inflation of flesh and bone people is completely unrealistic, and it isn't fun at realistic levels.
So inflatees are not flesh and bone people, but conscious balloons, so unfun gory (and immensely painful) things like damage to internal organs do not take place.

The-Big-Z
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Whatever floats your boat, honestly. I don't care HOW someone pops, but it better not get blood on my suit.

I don't put much logic into fantasy. If someone pops, I don't care how, it's that they did, and with detail. :D Survivability n' all that stuff is okay if you want it in there.

Otherwise, it's just another thing trolls say a lot, they put logic into everything.

nineteenthly

I have to be able to have some level of belief that it's possible to find it exciting. I also prefer hard SF to Star Wars. Probably the same phenomenon.

Concerning the conscious balloon angle, would that mean someone wishing to be the inflatee would want to be a balloon, as it were, or to be inflated? I can see something thrilling about the fact that you're being forced to go through a transformation which is very much unlike what your body is supposed to be capable of.

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pepi81

I love the blast, even though I have a good idea of how and bang, but I like to think that breaks into many pieces

nineteenthly

If you yourself are the person who pops, you don't get to experience any gore, so there's no reason to imagine it.

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Auriga
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Still, do you, being person who pops, expect to be healed and reinflated?

nineteenthly

Nope. That would completely spoil it.

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dimon

I actually prefer a fine mist so it could be possible for the one who exploded to take control and move into another victim but really any kind of explosion is fine by me deflation is not the same as popping.

...Pop...

hfilled
dimon wrote:
I actually prefer a fine mist so it could be possible for the one who exploded to take control and move into another victim but really any kind of explosion is fine by me deflation is not the same as popping.

That's kinda implied in my Racer X stories where reforming after popping (except under special circumstances) is the norm...

LutherVKane
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Be careful throwing around suppositions of what "makes sense" in the inflation context. :) Few inflation stories use realistic methods of inflation or constrain people to realistic sizes. Once you make those leaps and accept that these things are possible, what makes sense is determined by what's consistent with the mythology that the author has created.

As for why, I can think of two reasons:

1) It's what balloons do. Or rather it's what rubber balloons filled with gas of sufficient pressure do. Water balloons tend to stay in one piece, but balloons that are overfilled with air often shatter into many small pieces.

2) It's how the author's world works. Whether it's an important aspect of the story's mechanics or just the author's preference for how to deal with inflatable people, that's just how it goes. The author says that people turn into rubbery shreds when they burst, so that's how it happens.

In my popping stories, there's nothing left of the people who burst. No, it doesn't make sense that an entire human being's worth of mass would just vanish, but it doesn't make sense that a person would inflate in the first place. But once an author fashions a world where the impossible can happen, he gets to sets the rules by which it happens.

thegassyshadow
LutherVKane wrote:
Be careful throwing around suppositions of what "makes sense" in the inflation context. :) Few inflation stories use realistic methods of inflation or constrain people to realistic sizes. Once you make those leaps and accept that these things are possible, what makes sense is determined by what's consistent with the mythology that the author has created.

As for why, I can think of two reasons:

1) It's what balloons do. Or rather it's what rubber balloons filled with gas of sufficient pressure do. Water balloons tend to stay in one piece, but balloons that are overfilled with air often shatter into many small pieces.

2) It's how the author's world works. Whether it's an important aspect of the story's mechanics or just the author's preference for how to deal with inflatable people, that's just how it goes. The author says that people turn into rubbery shreds when they burst, so that's how it happens.

In my popping stories, there's nothing left of the people who burst. No, it doesn't make sense that an entire human being's worth of mass would just vanish, but it doesn't make sense that a person would inflate in the first place. But once an author fashions a world where the impossible can happen, he gets to sets the rules by which it happens.

That is probably the best explanation I have heard ever. It gives noobies like us a chance to explore what's been done already. Personally I think that if it fits within the story,then go ahead and do it. Most stories I have read are usually consistant with the rest of the inflation, like if oneof the characters is going to get popped, then at the end of the story, the story they are reduced to small scraps, but it's all just your taste on how you want the story to end.

I am the spreader of chaos, the evil that haunts the darkest corners of the human mind I'm the... PFFFFFT!!!!!! Crap, I ripped a big one.

retrobane
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I'm in the same boat as nineteenthly - as somebody who enjoys the fantasy of being ridiculously inflated, I also enjoy the threat of popping.

I'm not sure how I'd care much for actually *being* popped, reality or fantasy-wise; it's just that power play aspect rather enhances the fun for me. :x

That said, I've left the aftermath alarmingly undefined. At least it gives me a shred of honesty in answer during role play when my partner asks "I wonder what would happen if you popped?"

Myself in three words? Killer alien vagina.

nineteenthly

I'm glad it's not just me.

On the realism issue, i've thought of another way to go. We happen to be humans, with skeletons, circulatory systems susceptible to haemorrhage and so on, but what if we just happened to have totally different insides than we really have? I'm thinking maybe something like a jellyfish or a sea cucumber, so until the inflation occurs in the story, the assumption has been that these are human beings in the sense we think of them, but when it happens it's revealed that they're actually in a parallel universe, a different planet or living in a time in the distant future when dramatic body modification has become the norm. So you can then have "realistic" balloony inflation ending in shreds.

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Inflate123
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LutherVKane wrote:
Be careful throwing around suppositions of what "makes sense" in the inflation context. :) Few inflation stories use realistic methods of inflation or constrain people to realistic sizes. Once you make those leaps and accept that these things are possible, what makes sense is determined by what's consistent with the mythology that the author has created.

As for why, I can think of two reasons:

1) It's what balloons do. Or rather it's what rubber balloons filled with gas of sufficient pressure do. Water balloons tend to stay in one piece, but balloons that are overfilled with air often shatter into many small pieces.

2) It's how the author's world works. Whether it's an important aspect of the story's mechanics or just the author's preference for how to deal with inflatable people, that's just how it goes. The author says that people turn into rubbery shreds when they burst, so that's how it happens.

In my popping stories, there's nothing left of the people who burst. No, it doesn't make sense that an entire human being's worth of mass would just vanish, but it doesn't make sense that a person would inflate in the first place. But once an author fashions a world where the impossible can happen, he gets to sets the rules by which it happens.

Yes, yes, and yes. I also think this is one of the best ways I've seen this expressed ever.

Auriga
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Well, I never meant 'physical realism' to be applied to inflation.
Still it is far easier to imagine inflatee as conscious balloon, instead of flesh and bone human inflating.

Btw about air balloons: do they really turn into multiple pieces and shreds? I thought they don't.

LutherVKane
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As it stands, your statement is open to argument and prone to cause controversy. A slight edit makes it irrefutable:

"...it is far easier for me to imagine inflatee as conscious balloon..."

Physical realism isn't the point. Both scenarios fail the reality test so thoroughly that debating their relative realism is pretty pointless. "Sentient balloons" and "elastic humans" are simply two different means of achieving similar ends. You're just asking the reader to suspend disbelief in different ways.

As for what's easier to imagine, that all depends on the person. I can't argue with what's easier for you to imagine. It's your world, write it however you please (see option #2, above).

Regarding air balloons: It depends, I've seen it go both ways. From my own observations, it depends on how the balloon is burst. If the balloon isn't under a lot of stress or the rubber is thicker, then the balloon is likely to stay in one piece. This tends to happen when the balloon isn't fully inflated, so you'll see this a lot when a balloon is popped with a pin.

If the rubber is stretched thin and tight, then the balloon is more likely to shatter into many pieces. This happens when a balloon is burst from over-inflation. By the time it pops, there are many points on the balloon that are on the verge of failing. The entire surface is under near-critical tension, so the initial rupture quickly spreads through other points of the balloon that are near failing.

Here's a good example.

The most common cause of bursting in inflation stories is over-inflation. So an author who's seen lots of balloons shatter into bits from being blown up too big likely to depict something similar when his characters get blown up too big.

Unless, of course, that's not the effect he wants. It's fiction, so there's nothing stopping him from having characters burst into nothingness, or a fine mist, or a shower of tiny balloons if that's what works for him.

Delacroix

I would prefer them "simply" ending up as deflated dolls, rather than shredding, much easier to re-use if they are still in one piece :)

WendigoSkin

If there is a thing I would hate more than popping, would be popping in a gory way.
Why would you prefer blood and guts everywhere (because that's what would really happen) instead of sking and cloth pieces?

Delacroix

Ive got to agree with you, Wendigo. Gore really doesnt do it for me... If I want that, I can play anyone of a bunch of computer games. Now, to find a game where you run around inflating and deflating people, not killing them... :D

WendigoSkin

I'm not an angel, I always read books and watch films where people get killed in the most cruel ways...but please, let's keep these things separated from inflation.

doubleintegral
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WendigoSkin wrote:
I'm not an angel, I always read books and watch films where people get killed in the most cruel ways...but please, let's keep these things separated from inflation.

I don't like horror/slasher flicks, but that doesn't mean I go around to movie theaters asking them not to show those types of movies. I simply don't watch those movies.

Some people like to read and/or write the gory stuff. If you don't like it, great - don't read it. It's amazing to me that people still don't get this.

hfilled
doubleintegral wrote:
WendigoSkin wrote:
I'm not an angel, I always read books and watch films where people get killed in the most cruel ways...but please, let's keep these things separated from inflation.

I don't like horror/slasher flicks, but that doesn't mean I go around to movie theaters asking them not to show those types of movies. I simply don't watch those movies.

Some people like to read and/or write the gory stuff. If you don't like it, great - don't read it. It's amazing to me that people still don't get this.

Seconded. It is ironic that we have a small community of people that ar fascinated by unrealistically expanded/inflated/whatever bodies, yet there are those that seek to create/excerbate a schism in the community in an effort to label those that disagree with him as 'abnormal.'

Folks, if the general public only judged us by our inflation fetish, they'd pronounce us so far from normal, the light from normal wold take a millenium to reach us. Give it a rest.

nineteenthly

If the narrative point of view is first person, present tense, and one assumes that bursting=death, there's no need to worry about the aftermath because the story ends there.

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Boombaby

i never liked the idea of "springing a leak" and then either deflating or patching it up. It seems really anticlimactic to me. in my personal tastes, the girl should go out with as big a BOOM as logically plausible. its like a metaphoric orgasm, the more intense the better xD.

however, i also believe that the explosion should destroy the inflatee. Frankly it just makes sense for them to "die" and that makes it thrilling, although if it is overplayed then it can be kind of morbid..

though, when the inflatee does burst, i like it to be fairly clean as far as gore. usually if the girl goes off in a literal explosion like a bomb, then that problem is taken care of. if its just regular bursting though then being cartoony like exploding into shreds or pieces or mist or whatever is just fine. either way, you can achieve a powerful burst without the gore.

edit: though i will admit that SOME gore can be fun, but only on those rare occasions.

Anonymous

hfilled, my favorite irony is people trying to ban FAHRENHEIT 451 from school libraries. (Apologies for being off-topic -- there is no inflation in 451.)

WendigoSkin

The idea of a leak in a body isn't that bad to me.

Delacroix

Sure, me too :) but then again, there's just as many variations on a fetish as there are people into it.

Auriga
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And I absolutely love the idea of leaking air, if anybody wants to chat about it - u'r welcome. Need more inspiration to finish 5th part of my series.