I don't think there are nearly enough of us in one place to do this.
Also, I think that the majority of us wouldn't want to be so open about it. There is no real need for us to 'come out' we have a private fetish that can only be fantasised about and never realised, so I don't really see any great benefit to making it public.
I don't think there are nearly enough of us in one place to do this.Also, I think that the majority of us wouldn't want to be so open about it. There is no real need for us to 'come out' we have a private fetish that can only be fantasised about and never realised, so I don't really see any great benefit to making it public.
It's not just a fetish, it's a way of life. If we start to go public with our way of life, then we we will eventually be accepted.
Our numbers are still insufficient. Besides, fetishes have always been disdained.
A couple things...
- Why would you "come out" to your parents about a sexual fetish? A girlfriend/wife/partner/close friend I could see, but your parents?
- Not enough numbers of people sharing the same fetish.
- Would really rather not know about some random strangers fetish (Any fetish).
- It would be better to "come out" to one of the previously mentioned people as appose to a whole city. It would be a whole hell of a lot easier to have someone understand it. (Had my GF understanding it in about a night.)
I classify inflation as being a part of my life, not my entire life. As it stands currently I dont have the courage to "come out" fully to my gf of 2 years (even though she found and read a couple of my stories and liked them) yet alone the world. Sorry but I don't approve of this.
I, for one, am not possessed of an evangelical disposition. I have no need to "convince" anyone about anything about me.
Gonna have to agree with blue eyes why of all people would you tell your parents that you like inflation/expansion? It's more so to be told to someone you're having sex with maybe. And even then it's still not a common fetish so no people aren't going to get it.
Hell I like breast expansion you toss that idea out to a woman, who isn't into it mind you, and she'll probably think your just some boob obsessed pig. That or completely pass it off as something foolish or "cute" by which they mean awww isn't that cute he's got some weird quirk, moving on.
No I do not believe coming out and telling everyone my particular fetish is a good idea. Fetishes are meant to be something private and shared only in a close more often than not sexual relationship. At least that's how I feel. Sometimes friends will tell each other particular kinks but even then I just leave it to the basics of I like big tits and don't go any further than that.
Also, I think that the majority of us wouldn't want to be so open about it. There is no real need for us to 'come out' we have a private fetish that can only be fantasised about and never realised, so I don't really see any great benefit to making it public.
Agreed.
carnatic wrote:
Also, I think that the majority of us wouldn't want to be so open about it. There is no real need for us to 'come out' we have a private fetish that can only be fantasised about and never realised, so I don't really see any great benefit to making it public.
Agreed.
I agree as well.
I would never want our fetish to go mainstream- ALTHOUGH, it, of course, would be nice to see some real production value go into an inflation scene. When you think about it, I would say most of the scenes that turn us on were meant to be funny or weird. Now, I've paid for a number of Taylor's clips, but there's just something about the intentionally fetishy scenes that just misses the mark. It's as if once it becomes self-aware, it loses something- and I can't define what that something is.
I also can't imagine what conversation with your parents brought up your sexual fetishes. I think most parents would find it awkward- to say the LEAST- if their child wanted to discuss what they jack off to with them. Now, if you got caught with material and had to fess up, that's one thing, but you have to understand that no one but us or someone writing a story about us wants to know about this fetish.
I can understand a bit of your motivation for coming out in the open and being free of the shame, but it just isn't realistic. Even if you tried to have a parade about big tits, you would meet overwhelming opposition.
It does bring up an interesting thought- that I've thought about a lot: what would I do if my fetish became public knowledge(at least, amongst my friends). It wouldn't be the end of the world. I'd totally fess up to it and just say, "Yeah, that's my thing. I can't help it. It's strange, but it's not illegal." It'd be a totally liberating thing that I'd never want to happen.
I'm sort of actively pursuing the idea of "coming out", which is one reason i started the YouTube channel and the blog. It's a difficult decision because it falls between the identity kind of thing which is available to transvestites and homosexuals, and being a mere quirk like water sports and foot fetishism, and it also seems to vary between individuals. This means i feel permanently stuck in a quandry about whether i'm entering the realm of "too much information" when i mention it or whether it's useful information to the people to whom i've "come out".
One result of keeping it quiet, though, is that we allow people who don't share our desires to define who we are, which involves ridicule and worse. For instance, there was that stuff the "Daily Show" did on that guy, can't remember his name i'm afraid, where they basically stole his YouTube videos and took the mickey, that cartoon strip on Deviantart and, worst of all, the accusation that we're all paedophiles because of the Violet Beauregarde scene. All of that happens because we tend to keep it quiet and don't take control. Well I think we should take control, and we should do that by being public about it, and that's what i'm doing.
Another reason this might be a good idea: Rule 34. There is this idea that there just are pornographic images or literature, in an objective way that somehow just exist "out there". This is not so, because if it exists, there is porn of it. By publicising that we're into this, we erode that idea because most people wouldn't even dream that cartoon inflation scenes are arousing.
Right now, Facebook has banned images of breastfeeding because apparently, the breast is obscene as such. I made a video about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYBUVJwuqNY
If we do go public, we can undermine this kind of thing, so no way am i telling anyone else what they should do but I for one am going to be completely open about this, though it's also important to be balanced and not obsessive.
Sorry to go on!
carnatic wrote:
I don't think there are nearly enough of us in one place to do this.Also, I think that the majority of us wouldn't want to be so open about it. There is no real need for us to 'come out' we have a private fetish that can only be fantasised about and never realised, so I don't really see any great benefit to making it public.
It's not just a fetish, it's a way of life. If we start to go public with our way of life, then we we will eventually be accepted.
But why would be want to be accepted? By who? And why care what people who at the moment haven't even heard of our fetish would think about it.
I don't think it's a way of life. It's not my way of life anyway, and I wouldn't want it to be. How I get my rocks off is my own private business and I don't want it to be part of anyone's perception of me, negative or otherwise.
I disagree with any comparisons drawn between homosexuality and transvestism. Homosexuality is more than just a sexual kink, it involves a full relationship with someone of the same sex which shouldn't have to be hidden. Transvestism usually comes with a desire to be seen which makes 'coming out' a necessity.
Bosk makes an interesting point about the difference between 'fetish' inflation videos and those we chance upon. There is something kinky about remaining hidden which is eroded once out in the open. More pragmatically though, if inflation fetishism was some big out-in-the-open thing that everyone knew of, then the amount of inflation we see in mainstream media would soon dry up.
I don't think it would be eroded because there's plenty of sexual content in the media, advertising and so forth and it doesn't stop people wanting vanilla sex. Speaking as a sort of transvestite, it's not that i want to be seen so much as that i'm annoyed that people categorise clothes into "OK for men and women to wear" and "Only OK for women to wear" when there's nothing about the garment that makes it feminine as such, e.g. it's not a bra or something. I don't particularly want to be seen or not, i just want to be able to go out in the clothes i feel comfortable in without drawing negative attention because i'm wearing a dress or something.
I agree that it might happen less if people were widely aware of it, but i also think some videos are subconsciously or surreptitiously erotic, rather like the way things were for mainstream erotic content in things like Hollywood films in the 1950s. So in a way it's already "out there".
Whether it's like homosexuality, well, for me it's a separate identity because, and this may be sad, it's always been very hard for me to get any excitement from what the mainstream deems to be erotic. There used to be a time when i tried really hard to fantasise about "normal" stuff and find "normal" things sexually stimulating, but to be honest it just isn't there, and i think i have to accept myself as i am. I just have the fetishes, not just inflation fetishism though that's what we have in common here. It's so strong for me that whether someone is male or female is relatively unimportant, and for that reason i would say it really is as real an identity as homosexuality or heterosexuality for me. But of course we're all different.
By the way, i am happily married with two children, so don't feel sorry for me. It doesn't stop that from happening!
I'd start with making art, or better literature that would be both acceptable on its own by the common standards and still contain inflation as important part of the plot.
Well, Wonka had a great effect on public. (though personally I don't like blueberry) And it is a right direction.
Some new epic fantasy featuring inflatable people in elves' stead - if that would be popular enough, you'll be able to say I'm fan of {{STORY NAME}} and all this stuff looks sexy for me. That would be easily accepted.
If you'd show random inflation related pics or stories to a stranger - he'll think you are weirdo. 99.9% of existing inflation art doesn't fit the mission of representing us before rest of humanity.
Context, context, context! If it appears in something reasonably mainstream (fantasy/scifi/horror) show or movie, then yes, people won't bother questioning it. You might even get away with it if the venue were sufficiently cheesy enough--most any SyFy movie or under the radar action flick featuring chicks with guns or swords might get away with it, provided it were "tongue-in-cheek," as it were.
Inflation is a sexual fetish, and if you really hope to someday be able to be more open about it I think you'd sabotage that effort by flaunting it in situations that have nothing to do with sex, and presenting it to people who have no business (and probably no interest) in knowing your sexual proclivities. Also, inflation has grown to encompass a lot more things than it used to. People who inflate their stomachs/butts with air or water or who infuse saline into their genitals used to travel more in the enema and body modification circles, but now some travel in body inflation circles also. The same goes for inflatable latex fashion--there are people here who do not have a body inflation fetish, they just like inflatable catsuits. The typical inflation fans for whom this is all just a mental fantasy, some might consider to be either the most normal or the weirdest of all. If any one type of inflation fan gets in front of the media everyone will think we're all the same as that person. There isn't really a clear definition of what "inflation fetish" is anymore.
I do think there is a tactful way to accomplish what you want, however. Think about other fetishes that have gone somewhat mainstream. Foot fetishism is probably the most widely known and accepted. They didn't do it through having foot fetish parades. I think they did it by just catering to their own needs by showing pornographers they could make money catering to that niche market. When something becomes acceptable in the porn world, it will eventually start leaking into books, movies, television, and the news and I think that is the best way to go mainstream.
If you want to be able to go to a live venue where you can openly express your interest in inflation among like-minded people, conventions might be something to consider. I've never been to one, but I would imagine they offer some degree of privacy for the group having them, like if you reserved a ballroom or something and tried not to disturb other guests outside of your designated area. It might also help if the business-minded among us had some representation at mainstream adult expos. I could see sites like Mastasia or SqueakyLatex having a heck of an attention-grabbing booth at one of those, and it would be a welcoming atmosphere since it's an erotic venue.
Also, we really need either the pornographers to understand inflation better or we need the inflation folks to get better at running businesses because so many of them struggle. Personally, I think inflation props and inflatable suits might be the future of this fetish. I like online picture and videos but that seems to be a difficult business to maintain due to a lot of you folks stealing things. If someone can find a cheap and easy way to make good inflation props though, I think they might catch on, maybe even go mainstream in adult toy stores.
Today I came out as an inflationist to my parents. Unfortunatly, they do not understand it. They think I am strange. I think the problem is that people just don't see inflating alot. So I think what we should do is not just sit around inflating, but rather go out and have conventions, parades, everything. It will not only be alot of fun, but people will also understand us more.