latex helium flight suit

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ballooman
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latex helium flight suit

I have an idea for a helium filled suit. The suit shouldt be a ball suit whit the zipper on the front of the cheast. For bigger inflation the hood mut be attaced to the suit so you pull it ower your head like you do on a  a drysuit. Then you will be able to inflate the area aroud your head muths bigger. If anyone are able to make a suit like that I would volentier as a test pitot for it

 

booyajimmy

*sighhhh*....here we go again...

 

Beebobloon
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Echoing booyajimmy's sentiments here. You can't have a suit fill with helium to the point where you'd lift off the ground. A few Science programs have documented this, most popularly Braniac and Mythbusters. It's all to do with the weight of the person attempting to be lifted (or float) though.

When Braniac documented this, they used 8ft balloons that held 9 cubic metres of helium, each the equivalent size to 2000 standard balloons. All in all, to have the volunteer (a man weighing 14 stone, or just under 90kg), lifted off the ground where he wasn't just floating on the spot but actually lifting towards the ceiling, there were an equivalent of 30,070 helium balloons used. You simply can't make a suit to hold a person inside and an extra 150 (average) cubic metres of helium.

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Ratbiker
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you know, i've often wondered what one of those spherical or oversize inflatable latex suits would look like, if inflated with helium. just a curious thought in my mind. my guess is it most likely would have a very slight "upside-down tear drop" shape to it, if that at all.

 

it has often been passed through my mind. one of those things that make me go hmmmmmmm...

 

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dracon

its one dream.....maybe imposible dream.....very crazy and interesant dream..... interesant idea inflated one bigger suit with helium....no to flight...only for view the efect over suit inflated

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nineteenthly

Two things:

1. It would be a vehicle rather than a suit, but some people are into enormous inflation where people end up the size of a house. It would be feasible to make a "suit" which simulated that with something like a VR bodysuit which let one control a spherical inflatable with prosthetic hands and feet and one's head sticking out of the top, providing sensory feedback so that you could definitely fantasise that you were really that enormously inflated. It would be huge, of course, and i have done the maths on the video about Aunt Marge from Harry Potter and i think you're talking about something the size of a living room IIRC. It would be a special kind of helium balloon, but it could be done. It would also be ridiculously expensive and start off really, really baggy.

2. I sometimes wonder if you could sidle up on it by making the atmosphere very dense with something like high pressure sulphur hexafluoride and breathing apparatus. You would be able to reduce your weight that way. I don't know how dense an atmosphere is compatible with survival. The other thing is that even with air, you can easily float on water.

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klaeresource

And on top of everything else, latex doesn't hold helium very well.

dracon

maybe no fligth.....maybe one new ginnes record for the inflatable latex suit more bigger to world.

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nineteenthly

I've been thinking about this a lot over the past couple of days and clearly something could be done, though it's extreme - more like Violet Beauregarde in the new CATCF film than the Willy Wonka version. I have some thoughts and will put them down somewhere, along with diagrams, when i get the chance.

http://www.youtube.com/user/nineteenthly

 

dracon

pleace the idea its very interesant and me y my girlfriend i love suits inflatables inflated bigger.

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ballooman
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If there was a hood on the suit so the area ower your head could be inflated, so the suit would look like an upside-down teardrop, it might be posible. And the latex should be chloroprene latex that holds helium better

Beebobloon
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Still not plausible.

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BlownUp

Even if the OP's idea is unlikely, we can still speculate by stretching(!) the limits of reality.

It would be more likely to work if some parts of the suit were made of a think but soft rubber that could inflate very, very large. That way the suit would hold more helium.

The suit's buoyancy would be about four times greater if the surrounding room were filled with 20% oxygen and 80% xenon, which is the heaviest noble gas, instead of 80% nitrogen. In addition, xenon acts on the body like laughing gas, so breathing it would have an effect on you. (Actually true -- I am not making that up.)

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nineteenthly

Yes, i've thought about the xenon thing but it still wouldn't be anywhere near enough.  Nor would sulphur hexafluoride.  The buoyancy has to be incredibly high for it to work.  There is a way to do it, i'm sure, but it's - well, stand by for a blog entry because i have a plan.  Not particularly practical, but possible, though very expensive.

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booyajimmy

Seriously everyone, not to burst your bubble (*no pun intended*), but give it up.  Pumping helium into a suit that would allow a person to float isn't going to happen, especially on this planet.  I've seen the Mythbusters episode.  Jamie and Adam debunked it.  It's great for fantasy, but trying to have a scientific discussion on the possibilites is just boring.

I'm not being a troll.

nineteenthly

No, i understand your scepticism and it is indeed impossible if you envisage a balloon around 1.8 metres in diameter around someone's body. It'd be nowhere near. Hence my unfinished story 'Honeymoon On Enceladus' - that's how low the gravity would have to be for that to be possible.

However, two things might come to the rescue of this concept: teledildonics and enormous inflation. Some people imagine inflation vertically as well as horizontally. I have something in mind but it'll have to wait until i can blog. In the meantime, here's some arithmetic:

OK, the volume of a sphere can be given by the formula (4/3)*pi*r^3. A mole of gas is roughly 22 litres at standard temperature and pressure. The volume of a sphere six metres in diameter is 30^3*pi*(4/3)=113097 litres, which is 5140 moles of gas. Helium has a molar mass of 4 grammes, giving a sphere that size a mass of 20.5 kg. Assuming the air is pure diatomic nitrogen-14, an equivalent volume of air has a mass of just under 144 kg. That's 123.5 kg more than the helium. Therefore, a sphere of helium six metres in diameter can lift that mass, so the mass of the suit plus the mass of most people could in fact be lifted by a suit of that volume.

There is a way of doing it. However, i utterly empathise with your scepticism. I will eventually get to blogging on this in more detail but there's the whole privacy issue.

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nineteenthly

No, i understand your scepticism and it is indeed impossible if you envisage a balloon around 1.8 metres in diameter around someone's body. It'd be nowhere near. Hence my unfinished story 'Honeymoon On Enceladus' - that's how low the gravity would have to be for that to be possible.

However, two things might come to the rescue of this concept: teledildonics and enormous inflation. Some people imagine inflation vertically as well as horizontally. I have something in mind but it'll have to wait until i can blog. In the meantime, here's some arithmetic:

OK, the volume of a sphere can be given by the formula (4/3)*pi*r^3. A mole of gas is roughly 22 litres at standard temperature and pressure. The volume of a sphere six metres in diameter is 30^3*pi*(4/3)=113097 litres, which is 5140 moles of gas. Helium has a molar mass of 4 grammes, giving a sphere that size a mass of 20.5 kg. Assuming the air is pure diatomic nitrogen-14, an equivalent volume of air has a mass of just under 144 kg. That's 123.5 kg more than the helium. Therefore, a sphere of helium six metres in diameter can lift that mass, so the mass of the suit plus the mass of most people could in fact be lifted by a suit of that volume.

There is a way of doing it. However, i utterly empathise with your scepticism. I will eventually get to blogging on this in more detail but there's the whole privacy issue.

http://www.youtube.com/user/nineteenthly

 

nineteenthly

Right:  here are my thoughts on the suit/vehicle, set down as a blog entry on dA, with a diagram:

http://nineteenthly.deviantart.com/art/Floatation-suit-381100377

http://www.youtube.com/user/nineteenthly

 

nineteenthly

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