What popping means to you.

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Mon, 02/23/2015 - 04:39

BalloonInflator

First, a disclaimer:
I do not intend this thread to be offensive to any person or group. The questions I ask are for the purpose of self-enlightenment. The opinions I give are my own. If you have some resource that is contrary to something I say, please post a link to it, by all means. I am more than happy to consider any and all viewpoints in my endeavor to better understand you, my peers. That being said, onward.

Popping. A lot of fantasies wrap up this way. I will address this in the fantasy sense, as real-life popping is obviously a very messy issue, and I feel messiness isn't my issue here. I'm also going to stick to a fantasy where popping is final. No regeneration or things of the sort.
There are many who fantasize about this happening to themselves or others. In their fantasy worlds, popping is a common occurance. It's thought of as "natural" or "no big deal". That's where I have trouble understanding. How can something that essentially equates to death be "no big deal" to someone? The human mind is predisposed to avoid death at all costs (with the notable exception of some individuals such as "thrill seekers"). Dying is a fear ingrained in our very genome. It may be natural, but as living beings we generally don't want it to happen.
So, why in these fantasy worlds is it perfectly fine? Why do so many people want to die like this? Why are they seemingly unfazed by killing another person?

My issue isn't with the popping itself, it's with the practice which is so very contradictory to human nature. I get that it's a fantasy, and "anything goes" in fantasy, but if a person is dying, how is that arousing? Yes, I know there are whole other fetish communities centered around death and what have you. I guess this covers them too.

So, to simplify:
In your fantasy, why is popping different from suicide/murder?
How (if at all) do others in your fantasy justify it?
Why (assuming it is a form of final death) does someone in your fantasy desire it?

I look forward to your help in understanding this concept.

Thank you all.

_{Just a little more. You can take it...I hope...}

Mon, 02/23/2015 - 06:35

Inflatable_Superhero

You're applying your own rules to the fantasy universe however. In saying that the discussion can only represent "fatal" popping, and you make this death similie with alarming frequency, you're almost tilting it in the favour of your own opinion.

Sorry to butt heads, again, and I have no ill will for you, but why are you so obbsessed with "rationalising" this sub-fetish?

If you do not understand the attraction towards a particular fetish. The best bet is to assume you don't "have" the little kinky malignment in your brain which births the attraction to that fetish. If you don't "get" the popping thing, maybe it's safe to assume you just won't get it?

To answer your questions however:

In your fantasy, why is popping different from suicide/murder?

Context for this one is important. In my stories, I alternate between the complete destruction of the inflatee (implied permenance), and reformation (no permenance). In the former the inflation is usually more intense, and the final detonation is something meant to be overwhelming and impossible to forget.

When I pop my characters I generally envision them waking up from a fever dream, or something along those lines. You can have characters in fiction which are not representations of real humans, but of desires. In the case of my permanently exploded characters, I suppose it might corelate to a deep-seated urge to experience sexual pleasure on a scale that completely wipes me out for a time.

So it's not murder, or suicide - and as a mental illness sufferer I find it a bit... crude to keep bringing up this comparison - because the characters themselves are not redolent of real life individuals, but of themes and desires implanted by the reader. Just as you can with any form of fiction. You can read alternative meanings into a character's self-destruction, but the matter of who is correct; and who isn't; in analysing prose is a topic a bit too heavy for a kinky body inflation forum.

How (if at all) do others in your fantasy justify it?

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you referring to individual fantasies, like erotic daydreams, or of the universes constructed for our stories/pictures to take place within?

Why (assuming it is a form of final death) does someone in your fantasy desire it?

Again. Death. You're putting a lot of emphasis on death. This is why people may feel uncomfortable with the discussion itself. You're of the sound understanding that fetishes can crop up in a person, unexplained, right? Well this is no different.

But if I had to go into the morbid. If the character wanted to be remembered for something; or if they wanted to leave the stage with as much impact as possible; then turning into a 50ft balloon and going off with the force of a bomb wouldn't be a bad way to go!

As a final note. I should mention I'm not a fan of gore in my popping. Confetti, gas, and remnant clothing tatters are fine for me!

Mon, 02/23/2015 - 06:59

thereplicka

This is a loaded question if I've ever seen one. @__@"

"I'm also going to stick to a fantasy where popping is final. No regeneration or things of the sort."

Sounds like you're a little too hung up on your own ideals to accept or discuss anyone else's. (Excuse me if that's out of line as I'm not actually offended, just not seeing the point in asking a question if you already are sticking to your guns regarding an answer.)

Not everyone associates it with death, so your question is inherently flawed and makes a lot of assumptions. You're not taking the time to accept other people's ideas because you're making a ton of assumptions and jumping to a lot of conclusions in an attempt to 'understand'. :\

That aside, a lot of people actually associate it with orgasm, like myself. I for one don't see any pleasure in continually doing the same thing with no foreseeable ending. Consequence is what makes life fun - predictable and stagnant situations make for a boring time.

I enjoy the pressure and the fun, and get instantly bored if someone has no interest in going all the way with me on that aspect. Inflation is fun, but inflation without an end gets repetitive after a while (or, it did for me!). I started off not liking popping, but after years of the same old hat I decided to explore new things. I ended up liking popping and the thrill of danger more than the predicable natures I was encountering.

I accept not everyone thinks this way as this has been a huge controversy since I popped (haha) onto the scene a decade ago, but it's high time we let others have their interests without scrutiny. My experiences do not equal someone else's, nor do my views. (I don't go onto non-popping art and promote popping and I find it extremely annoying that same respect doesn't go both ways.)

Death is a touchy subject, so don't be insistent on bringing it where it isn't welcome; don't make something fun about something morbid unless that's the explicit intention. If someone equates popping to death, that's fine and their business - it's their fetish, they can wank how they choose. Saying someone's fetish is flawed and deranged is kink shaming and on a kink site that's super hypocritical.

Sorry if this is rude but like I said, dealing with this for ten years has made me pretty bitter about the subject! I understand no offense was intended and like I said earlier, I take no offense, but I am genuinely bored of seeing this 'argument' whenever I want to have some fun. I don't see what's so hard about walking away when you don't like something, especially when you have so many other options; the internet gives us a lot of people to talk to and a lot of people who share our exact interests, so why harp on those who don't? ^^

Mon, 02/23/2015 - 07:27

BalloonInflator

Thanks to both of you so far. I am very much aware that since I do not share this particular kink, I will probably never fully understand it. I am not condemmig it, nor am I trying to promote an alternative. I simply wish to try to understand. What better way to gain understanding is there than asking questions.

I understand it may seem pointless, but the simple truth is I just want to know. Even if I never feel the same as you do, I can at least get a much better idea of why you feel the way you do. That's really all I'm hoping for.

I'm sorry if my questions have been frustrating, but thank you for your willingness to share. I fully believe that clear, non-agressive communication is key to a more complete understanding for us all.

Once more, as if I haven't said it enough already, thank you.

_{Just a little more. You can take it...I hope...}

Mon, 02/23/2015 - 09:31

Lopni

A very good question!

As for myself, there is me, enjoying these inflating characters on the screen, and for me they are pixels, if they pop - they become pixels flying apart, I calculate trajectories how they fly, and don't think much of it.

Still, I have inflation fetish - I get aroused by imagining inflation, so I imagine all sorts of scenarios in that imaginary world. That's my... umm... aid in my private life with my loved wife Maria.

...And there are those characters.

For them inflation is a part of life, and popping kills them. They don't get aroused by inflation as I do, in fact inflation is a very small part of their life.

I have to simulate their world, so it can't die out in a century. Meaning, of course there are all kinds of minorities, but for the most part they live in families and raise children; strong and wealthy care for the weak, poor and ill; and men protect women. In "Thais of Athens", "Razor Blade" and "Ecumene", Ivan Efremov is very convincing that strength of society is very much based on how equally women are treated. If some ancient society was based on humiliation of beauty, and being cruel to mother, daughter and wife was no big deal - it had profound effect on everything else. Including, inability to see beauty, inability to marvel and explore wonder, slow progress or reverse in science, outdated technology, extreme cruelty from cradle to maturity, declining population and unstable political regime, which soon is destroyed by neighbouring country. That happened in the past to all nations where woman's death was no big deal. ^_^

For them popping is a kill. I don't see a way around it. ^_^

There are several ways popping can happen in imaginary world. Firstly, there is biologically necessary inflation during child birth - which might end with a pop of a lady, or a pop of a child, or both. That's why it's better to give birth in the clinic - there they have means to deal with these rare anomalies, and save both the mother and her child ^_^

In family & friends setting popping doesn't happen. BUT! They watch movies and play games where they can pop thousands every evening.

In sports - inflatics - they slip a lot, but also don't pop. BUT! Slipping feels exactly like popping for the inflatist, and the public can enjoy the simulation of their explosive demise on jumbotron.

There are also all kinds of shady events, from underground inflating rings to bursting prostitution. There fatal accidents happen on a regular basis. After all, bursting is the ultimate test of woman’s devotion to inflation – like a loyal warrior dying in battle, a woman sacrifices herself for the course her heart tells her to follow.

And there’s crime. From domestic crime of unwilling/accidental inflation till bursting, all the way to bursting targets for money, bursting raids, bursting terrorism.

Crime is punished. With DNA present in every touch and every kiss on the scrap of the victim, and all smart devices built-in everywhere it’s not too hard to identify the killer.

Those individuals who see popping as a part of life join the Popping party and campaign to legalize it, so that some day their descendants will have the freedom to pop themselves without entire district running to prevent that. So far, it's a yet another marginal party, mostly consisting of popping fetishists and producers of kinky goods.

I can go on rambling forever ^_^ but I hope you get the picture. ^_^

Mon, 02/23/2015 - 13:11

carnatic

Whether popping equates to death is very much a matter of your own mind. If it equates to death in your own mind you will have a hard time understanding how people can say it doesn't, and will keep coming back to 'but it's snuff isn't it'... But if it doesn't equate to death you will have a hard time understanding how people can insist it does and why they can't understand the difference between what you like and snuff.

We have had many threads like this and none of them have resulted in anyone having a lights-on moment. Everyone leaves them with pretty much the same views they came in with.

Just think of it as kind of like trying to explain to people who don't have this fetish that you don't have a torture fetish, but they don't understand because to them, how can inflation not be torture?

Mon, 02/23/2015 - 20:38

(Reply to #6) #7

BalloonInflator

I partially agree with you carnatic. More than likely once this thread has run its course, I will still be of the mind that popping is death and is not in any way erotic to me. However, I do intend to gain some level of understanding of the ones who do and why they think like that.

I'm getting a lot of good responses, and believe it or not, it has helped me understand. While I still don't plan to get into popping, I am gaining an understanding of the whole concept, and respect for those who enjoy it.

In the past, I imagine the originators of these types of threads were probably just venting frustrations and looking for someone to take those frustrations out on. I am searching for enlightenment, in a way. I may not understand personally, but I hope soon I will at least be able to empathize better.

Thank you.

_{Just a little more. You can take it...I hope...}

Mon, 02/23/2015 - 19:50

airtankgirl5

Seems like death to me. Death bad.

Mon, 02/23/2015 - 20:40

(Reply to #7) #9

BalloonInflator

You're the first person in this thread who seems to share my viewpoint. Would you care to elaborate for the sake of covering all the angles?

_{Just a little more. You can take it...I hope...}

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 05:50

#10

Another Canadian Guy

For me, it feels like in most cases death is most suitable or makes the most sense to me, even if it is in a fantasy world. It's topical of course, being that different situations and physics will have different rules. I don't think that popping would equal death 100% of the time, but in the majority of my cases, it's just like a balloon. A balloon doesn't just regenerate in the real world; if it bursts then it's destroyed forever. Also, I feel that, again, in a imaginary world, popping could also sorta be like a comatose, and, again if certain physics and rules apply, they could regenerate with help and heal back to normal. The majority of my cases though if it was in a more realistic sense (remember, I practice real life body inflation here), popping is a rupture of the body cavity, and therefore the body is destroyed.

(Not on here too often, replies might be slow.)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:10

#11

darth_clone19

Popping means release on one side, and in a metaphorical literal sense...yeah, it means death and I like that. Even before I developed this fetish I had kinda sadist fantasies too and with time both merged, which is why I prefer inflation as something involuntary. But also, cartoons pop, and thats not sadistic, is it? I dont know. It just turns me on that people may pop if they inflate. Theres no danger to it if they cant pop.

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Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:28

(Reply to #11) #12

BalloonInflator

See, I can understand your point of view fairly well, especially now. If you're into that, I get that reading about it is exciting. The only real remaining point of confusion now is the characters themselves.

I get it's a fantasy and you can have them do whatever you want for your own pleasure, but it's still something bizarre to me that a human being would willingly let themself be popped. Now, if it's like your choice and the process is involuntary, that makes sense that they'd pop and there's nothing they can do about it. However, I'm still confused about those who push and push with the intention of popping either themself or another. Do these people (the popees, if you will) have some sort of suicidal tendency? Are they depressed and want to die? What's their motivation for ending their life? I get the desire for extreme pleasure, but does that necessarily override one's will to live in the case of popping?
Maybe I'm just a coward or something like that, but I am very protective of my own life, so much so that I won't even go to a theme park without checking their safety records on even the tamest of rides first. Is it odd to expect others, fantasy characters included, to have a similar desire to avoid death?

And as a side note, I don't really think popping is sadistic, at least not anymore than some of the other fetishes out there. I'm not judging anyone. I'm just curious.

_{Just a little more. You can take it...I hope...}

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:24

#13

airtankgirl5

I don't think I can really elaborate a great deal without sounding all judgey. Or rather, being found out as being all judgey, because I am.

But simply put, I'm not into it becuase its not something I'm into. I know that's circular logic, but it also happens to be accurate. I'm just not interested in it. There's a lot of parts of this fetish I'm not interested in. I don't want to kill anyone, nor do I want to be killed. Other people are, and they are welcome to it, no matter how disasteful I may find it. I don't have to do or like their thing, and they don't have to do or like what I like. There's enough room in the greater expansion community that we can all choose to politely ignore each other :)

There, that was about as non-judgey as I get.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 05:44

(Reply to #13) #14

BalloonInflator

Much appreciated, and I concur.

I (obviously) don't enjoy popping, and very likely won't. But as far as I'm concerned, that's no reason to dismiss the subject without having some sort of understanding. That's what this thread is really all about. I just want to understand a little better, even if I don't share the opinion.

We're a large community, and we can afford to give each other our space when it comes to individual likes and dislikes. I just hope we can all at least have a healthy respect for each other, and try to think about why we are the way we are before we jump on someone for thinking differently.

_{Just a little more. You can take it...I hope...}

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 13:09

#15

carnatic

Just as a thought experiment... This is primarily directed at the OP, but anyone else feel free to answer.

The human body is not designed to be inflated, inflation stretches the skin. Grab your earlobe and pull it as hard as you can. It hurts right? Inflation must be painful too, how can it not be?... Why would someone want to be inflated, and what must the mental state be of someone who wants to inflate others? Wanting to hurt other people and then getting off on it is a torture fetish. There's no other way you can look at it, it's confusing because we are programmed to avoid pain.

I'm just curious but can you explain why you might want to be tortured? Or why you might want to torture others?

What I'm trying to say here, is that you've used logic to connect popping to death, and then you've expected everyone else to follow the same logic. There's nothing wrong with you saying that to you popping equals death, and that affects your own views on it, and of course you can't get off on that; but you're enforcing that thinking on other people by asking them why they might find death arousing and not allowing them to answer that they don't find death arousing.

In my thought experiment a hypothetical person is using logic to equate inflation to pain (as well someone might do if they don't understand the inflation fetish), but then they're asking you why you get turned on by inflicting pain on others, or yourself and not giving you the opportunity to say that in your fantasies inflation isn't painful.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 14:11

(Reply to #15) #16

BalloonInflator

You make a very good point. Logically speakng, inflation should hurt like hell. As a self-inflator, I can tell you it most certainly does at some point, but that's usually the point we're instructed to stop. Now, when it comes to a fantasy torture scenario, of course the "victim" is pushed past this point, and the reader is supposed to find it sexually exciting. So why, in my eyes, is this understandable and popping not? I honestly can't say. Maybe, like so many others, I just have a line drawn.

So, what I can conclude here from all these arguments is that my issue comes down to the simple separation of reality from fantasy. Real-world logic doesn't need to be applied to a fantasy world or scenario, because the two are inheirently different. Just becasue it makes sense that someone sholuld logically behave a certain way in reality, doesn't necessarily mean they need to follow that same logic in fantasy.

I never intended for anyone to feel like I was forcing my views on them, or forcing them to respond in a manner I preferred. Please, feel free to tell me exactly what's on your mind. I appreciate the honesty.

Fantasy does not equal reality. That's the conclusion I'm drawing here. Just because a character feels the desire to pop (and by extention, die) does not necessarily mean the creator of said character shares that desire. Just becasue someone in a fantasy setting has the urge to pop another person doesn't mean the writer has a taste for death or murder. It's just made up.

_{Just a little more. You can take it...I hope...}

Thu, 02/26/2015 - 09:43

(Reply to #16) #17

Lopni

Just one correction: in real life it's too late to stop when one feels the sudden sharp pain. Been discovered by a few from forum community ^_^ Keep it safe ^_^

Also, related to imaginary universe. If we take real life inflation and extrapolate it - then real life rupture of internal cavity corresponds to fantasy popping, with similar sensations.

Slipping shouldn't feel bad - no harm is done at all. Besides, the cool factor of roller-coaster experience. Some might orgasm at slipping - as some orgasm at real life inflation.

Awkward slip might give that uneasy feeling from real life, like, ok, enough, I'd better stop right now, something isn't right inside.

Strained bubble that reduces stats and requires visiting a doctor - might give that sudden sharp pain from real life.

And if blowoff isn't fitted, or the pump isn't made for inflation, then a lady who slipped rips into rubbery scraps - that might be a very painful "what have i done" torture. Just those who did it can't tell anyone, you know? So people in imaginary universe might believe whatever they want. Some risky pervert idiots might think that popping is oh so very much pleasure since slipping is fun.

Just one option ^_^

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:50

(Reply to #15) #18

Another Canadian Guy

If I can throw in my two cents about inflation here, I'd like to say that the whole torture fetish doesn't nessesarily equate to sadistic pleasures. Part of the torture part is also submition, so you could be into someone being tortured, yet not enjoy their pain in it: just their helplessness.

I know for me, being a self inflator, I wouldn't want to inflate anyone to the point of them not enjoying it and/or getting hurt. Yet, for reasons I don't fully understand, I've grown a liking to forced inflations in non-reality situations, like animations or drawings. I didn't used to enjoy it, and I certainly don't enjoy seeing others in pain, but this just kind of came up. So for me, I don't know if it's their helplessness, or their pain. I personally feel that it's helplessness and seeing themselves inflate to unreal porportions, because I wish for myself to be able to experience it (minus the pain and death, I don't take those into fantasy/fetishtic inflations. I understand realistically there would be pain and death, but I like to just imagine it and cut it out).

(Not on here too often, replies might be slow.)

Wed, 03/04/2015 - 12:52

(Reply to #20) #19

carnatic

Well quite, and that's what you would say to someone who told you your fetish equated to a joy of inflicting pain on others. It's a similar situation for (most) people who enjoy popping when we're told we get off on the idea of death.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 10:22

#20

firnov

its the biggest trill in the inflation-story. i dont know why,,, but God, i love to a Good pop. its just a think that you do or dont like.

i will write this in my opinion: a inflation without a pop is like a cowboy-movie without a gunfight. the pop and the gunfight are like the same, you wait for it to make a good/trilling end of the story.

and about the stuff that popping is killing: dont worry, its fantasy and clearly not real. its like killing a soldier in a videogame, its fiction. you dont have to feel sorry for the soldier.

and you can pop all people you like to pop. if you can pop them all over again( evry time you use your fantasy)

And boom goes the inflatee

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 15:23

#21

Delacroix

For me, at least in my dreams and stories, I've never seen the inflatable girls as real humans. They're sex toys, inflatable blow up dolls, that become "living" once inflated, but they're still just air-filled vinyl dolls. Their only goal and desire is to please and tease, and if popping is one way to achieve that, then they're perfectly fine with it.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:14

#22

doubleintegral

I've typed and deleted several replies to this, but I really just end up repeating what others (mostly Inflatable_Superhero) have said.

I get that everyone sets their own boundaries for what they like or don't like. The nice thing about a fetish that has zero basis in real life is that there are no rules, so pretty much anything goes.

Suffice it to say, though, with precious few exceptions, we would do well to not attack the morals of others in the context of a fetish that sensualizes physical and sexual assault.

Stories I have written

Tue, 03/03/2015 - 03:05

#23

BalloonInflator

I think I've come to a personal understanding, and doubleintegral summed it up nicely.

Everyone has their own boundaries. The majority of this fetish is set in fantasy, and so fantasy rules apply. It doesn't matter whether people might behave/feel different in real life, because it's not real life. Anything goes.

The mental anguish and sociological consequences that come with "death by popping" are somethings that simply don't exist in the fantasy world in which they're protrayed, if only for the sole purpose of allowing such things to happen without the fantasizer getting distracted by the important thing, the eroticism. Obviously, I let myself get distracted.

And that brings me to my final point. My issues are my own. What I like is what I like, and what others like is what they like. Sometimes, there's no real rhyme or reason to any of it. We may never fully understand each others' points of view, but at least we can get a little closer by sharing our thoughts in a civilized and helpful manner such as this.

Finally, I'm thankful to all of you who contributed to my little inquiry. Believe it or not, you've actually helped. I'm still not into popping; it just seems wrong to me. However, I at least understand those of you who do find it appealing, and why. I doubt I'll ever get into popping like you, just as I'm sure I'll never convince you to stop liking it. But that's perfectly fine. The world needs different views.
I hope no one has taken this thread as a personal attack or anything of the sort. It has been an intriguing discussion, and I for one feel like we've all gained a little something from it. Thanks again, and happy inflating.

Luther, you can lock it up now.

_{Just a little more. You can take it...I hope...}

Wed, 03/04/2015 - 12:57

(Reply to #22) #24

carnatic

well put.

I don't think anyone saw it as a personal attack... just something they felt they needed to chime in about as we've had our morality questioned in the past and so always feel the need to clarify things whenever the 'd' word gets mentioned.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 17:32

#25

pballooned

I only like popping in some very specific situations. It usually deals with the popped character being very very dangerous(the popping must be comical though).
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The Naked Gun 2 & 1/2
Ironically, my favourite inflation scene includes popping.

Dig Dug
And my favourite inflation in the interactive media does too.
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I will reply the three questions for each of my favourite inflations:
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The Naked Gun 2 & 1/2

Why is popping different from murder?
Ironically what appeals to me isn't the murder itself, but the fact that nobody in the movie or the audience seems to care about the killed character, of course in a comical way. That's probably because the character is an assassin.

How do others in the fantasy justify it?
The hero acted in self defense and didn't intend to explode the adversary. He even tried to turn off the valve of the fire hose, but it broke. And that's part of the comedy ;-)

Why does someone in the fantasy desire it?
This doesn't apply here, since it's accidental.
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Dig Dug

Why is popping different from murder?
While everything is drawn cute, the enemies are supposed to be dangerous monsters. That kind of justifies it, at least culturally.

How do others in the fantasy justify it?
Self defense.

Why does someone in the fantasy desire it?
Only weapon available which can be used from the distance.
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It is harder to apply to a woman because usually men are the more physically menacing. Though I think it could be applied to a dangerous beautiful witch, or a dangerous woman using a knife against the hero(you can see I'm influenced by The Naked Gun here, he he).

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 11:40

#26

hfilled

For me personally (and I self-identify with the victim in all the stories I write), it's the idea of great pressure that's somehow equal to powerlessness and impending doom that I find arousing to me; inflation=potential balloon/bomb and popping = pop/explosion which = release. The idea of being forced or tricked into inflation by a beautiful women and inflated to the point of explosion is my great turn-on. The popping equals complete destruction of me...which happens to equal complete power over me. The impending doom is important to me along with the (clean: fireball, shreds, nothingness) popping.

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 11:41

#27

hfilled

double post

What popping means to you.

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