Some people have really been pissy on here lately. Frankly i don't get why people have been ganging up on others. Really people why are so many of you so touchy lately? Someones really excited to post something and they just get bashed over their idea...makes me feel like not even posting because so many peeps on here are PMS-ing lately...obviously were all hear for a reason. Because we are all open-minded humans wanting to explore our fetishes..and so many are just knocking anothers ideas instead of helping them feel good about sharing. Seriously this site is an "18 or older" site, why don't some of you start growing up and acting more mature? I know that us ladies mature faster than you guys but damn!!
Ive been meaning to step up....
It makes me sad. This place has always been very welcoming, and it has been a haven for me. Hopefully, it's just a phase, or maybe it's not really all that bad and people will calm down again.
I dont really know what to think. I just got tired of reading peoples negative input.
Any examples of 'negative'?
Well, absence of any feedback, even critical is worse. (I think so)
Also, criticizing others' tastes is counter-constructive, while criticizing quality of art/writing/grammar et.c. is perfectly normal and even good.
Or are you talking about nineteenthly idea? Yeah, it is creepy to me too.
Well, I personally dislike too much physiology in fantasy, thats only me though.
Or you could just not care what people say/think?
it really piss me of when people are willing to share content, like Newbie, and gets kicked in the mud, she almost died for the fetish, and people stilled make fun,
I hope this site don't get like inflatechan, and shout man in drag every time a genuine girl wants to show off her work, with out flashing her boobs.
I had my say on the matter.
Any examples of 'negative'
The whole Newbie thread was depressing and very negative. There was someone who regularly contributes getting hounded out of the forum by people who wanted to nitpick over whether she was real or not.
All I have to say about this whole ordeal is people must realize it is the internet and we're all regardless of our mutual interest in a fetish, cyber strangers. That being said people need to realize that you need thick skin on the internet. People will say and do things that are down right discouraging. You must roll with the punches. I can't speak for everyone but we're not "friends". We're just people who enjoy the fetish and have found a haven to do so peacefully.
I don't know if that made sense at all but it did when I typed it.
My 0.02 cents.
The whole "Newbie" thread is, if you don't mind the pun, being blown out of proportion. Blowupboy came in and said that he didn't think her stories were true in a rather calm, understandable manner and she reacts by going "WELL I'M NOT POSTING ANYTHING ANYMORE". If you want to talk about immaturity, look no further than that.
She wasn't "hounded out of the site" by people. No-one "kicked her in the mud". Nobody said "GET OUT OF HERE YOU FILTHY LIAR" or anything to that effect. All the chattering about whether she was really female or not (Blowupboy's initial comments notwithstanding) happened AFTER she said she'd stop posting, which only strengthened the argument that she wasn't the real deal and was leaving because she was afraid she'd been found out.
It just seems like in the last few months some people have been acting different as in ganging up on eachother..please tell me its not just me that has noticed a difference in people..maybe im too observant...I dont know.
i have
I blame inflatechan. A lot of the people over there have this attitude where they're so attached to the idea that free speech means tearing into everyone else and basically acting like a complete dick that they can't see the irony when someone else criticises their attitude in just as jerkish a manner as they criticise those whose fetishes or art or stories they don't like.
My point being that yes, free speech is a good thing but if you think it means you can be a total nob to other people and then cry 'I was exercising my freedom of speech and you are trying to rein me in!' when people are a nob back at you then sadly you're missing the point.
The way therefore to get rid of these people is to call them out on what they are and they should soon stop. There may be no digital thought police but the majority of the people who dish it out can't take it back.
The whole "Newbie" thread
The Newbie thread?
In Blowupboy's and all of the "naysayers" defense, Newbie did in fact claim that she had taken pictures of her bloated state, but she did not want to post them, which only added fuel to the massive bonfire of doubt.
It is always a shame to see a user just up and quit like that, but still, we've had more than our unwanted share of traps and dudes pretending to be girls, so obviously when someone pointed out that Newbie formally posted as an underage boy, we had a right to be skeptical of her supposed true self.
Ah. Well, my observations for what they are worth, echo others:
1. BI org, is not a free speech zone. It is private property, and hence, the first amendment does not apply.
2. The internet, particularly those of us with this goofy fetish, need thick skin. Man up for heaven's sake.
3. We are indeed, not all friends here. We merely have the same perversion, that's all.
4. The Newbie thread WAS stupid. Almost dying for the fetish is fucking asinine. If that isn't clear to you then I'm vaguely sorry you are stupid.
5. Who cares? Do what you are going to do, have fun and don't get all emo about it.
Then again, I'm not an overly friendly or tolerant person. Ask around ;).
Toodles.
In Blowupboy's and all of the "naysayers" defense, Newbie did in fact claim that she had taken pictures of her bloated state, but she did not want to post them, which only added fuel to the massive bonfire of doubt.
Actually, she did say she wanted to say to share the pics, but didn't know how to get them off her phone. She practically had her own Apple Genius Bar with all the people on here trying to help her.
I can vouch for that, i dont find it particuarly easy to take the pictures of my family off my phone. (christmas gift shhh..lol)
"Freedom of speech" is overrated...I think truly moronic people should be muted as soon as they show symptoms...and should NOT be given drivers licenses. This would make my morning commute to work much much easier and less stressful. Oh sorry, I was ranting about idiot's, probably not very on topic eh? :D
"Freedom of speech" is overrated...I think truly moronic people should be muted as soon as they show symptoms...
Sieg heil! And watch that slippery slope. It can be treacherous.
If you honestly think that this place is becoming unwelcoming or that the people here are overly critical and mean, you probably haven't spent a lot of time on the internet.
well, I agree with you Zepylin, Youtube is infamous overly critical comments.
I've gotta agree with Carnatic about the state of things. I've been involved in the inflation community in one way of another since 1996, when the internet was still young.
In the early days people associated with the fetish were very gracious for any related content. To us the internet was this great new thing that amazingly let us share our darkest secrets with other like-minded people. Brilliant!
But these days many folks posting on some sites sit happily behind their anonymous ID's and post bile about someone's work, because they've grown up with the internet and don't actually appreciate what it's doing for them.
Regarding the whole 'Newbie' situation: Nobody likes having their work criticized or derided, but I would have expected a firmer rebuttal. If somebody started doubting I was who I said I was online, it doesn't make much difference to me what they think. But if there was a way I could prove them wrong I would certainly have done that.
So I would have thought the ultimate 'screw you' from Newbie would have been to post the pictures of herself online and prove she was who she said she was. End of.
So I would have thought the ultimate 'screw you' from Newbie would have been to post the pictures of herself online and prove she was who she said she was. End of.
This logic only applies if you assume that Newbie is attached to the forum and gains something by providing the pictures.
If her sharing her experiences only gets negative feedback then the sensible option is to just walk away. She loses nothing.
Regarding Newbie, and also Lynne from Sweaterpupbreeder and the whole drama over whether any female posting here is actually a female and subsequent demands to see photographic proof from people who, without a shred of irony post on inflatechan anonymously:
This is the internet how do you know anything is true, how do you know the reverse isn't true and I'm not a girl masquerading as a guy? How do you know Luther isn't a one-eyed hairy yellow monster? How do you know Bob King isn't actually Kim Jung-Il? How will seeing a few photos change your mind? More importantly, given very few of us will ever meet each other and our relationships exist purely in cyberspace, why do you care? Why do you want the illusions we've built up to be shattered? Illusions that not just you but everyone else benefits from, but you got all butthurt and cast doubt over the whole thing because you think the illusions are there purely as a 'trap' to catch people out.
Maybe female X is actually a 43 year-old biker guy in a hut in Nebraska, or maybe X really is a 21 year old brunette chick from Connecticut with an inflation fetish. How would you know either way? Maybe X is in fact a girl but isn't quite as young, or outgoing, or attractive as you have pictured in your head because she likes being the hot girl that all the guys flock to and she can't be this in real life. I can pretty much guarantee that X can't really inflate like a balloon in the way you imagine it though, so why care about whether any of your other shared illusions are real? Are you really exactly as you say you are? How do you even know who you are? Even if you aren't lying about yourself you're probably not sharing photos of yourself with your fellow inflationists and I can hazard a guess that your personality online is a little different to what it is offline, mainly just because you're less inhibited online.
The second reason the internet is so popular (or perhaps even the first), behind the fact it is such a valuable source of information and communication, is that it is completely virtual, the rules that tie us down in our own lives, from those of physics to those of biology and society are completely absent here.
Now this may mean there is nothing stopping you from being a total knob-end. You can be as immature and belligerent and as puerile as you like and face no 'real' consequences. But of course if you act like this then people won't like you, real people (whether they're who they say they are or not)... and then they won't want to talk to you... push it too far and the community as a whole will stop liking you and you start to get banned from various places. So be a twat if you want to be... but you won't get anywhere near as much out of this community if you are one as opposed to if you aren't one. And if you do find yourself ostracised, then as ATG just said, 'man-up' you only have yourself to blame.
As for newbie, I think Lateralus, you're mixing her up with someone else. I do remember someone posting her a month or so ago that someone else pointed out was using the same name as someone they'd contacted elsewhere that turned out to be a teenage boy. Newbie's been here a lot longer than that.
All this talk of "be a knob-end" and such once again gives me the impression that people here are reacting overly hostile to what Blowupboy actually said. He wasn't "being a knob-end"; he was voicing his opinion that he didn't believe everything he read, and he has every right to say that, just as everyone else in the thread had every right to believe Newbie was the real deal.
I can understand his problem with the situation, if Newbie really wasn't a woman; on the one hand Newbie was maybe just doing it to please members of the community, but on the other she may have been doing it simply to whore attention or to insult our intelligence... He didn't tell her to stop or go away, he just said he didn't believe it but didn't care about other people believing it and enjoying the stories. It was all about HIS point of view and the reasons he thought that way, not him trying to convince anyone otherwise. The only person in that thread who ruined anyone's fun was Newbie herself when she up and left at the first sign of criticism.
Please stop acting like this site is becoming a cesspool of villains and that the evil of inflatechan is tainting it or any shit like that. Frankly, this place needs a bit of negativity... Not BAD negativity with people trolling one another for no reason but to be jerks, but people who are willing to be critical and tell someone that their work isn't perfect. I find it extremely pathetic when someone, within the slew of "OH GOD SO SEXY PLZ DO MORE" comments, says that they have some problems with the piece and the reaction they get is someone telling them to shut up and stop ruining their fun.
Regarding Newbie, and also Lynne from Sweaterpupbreeder and the whole drama over whether any female posting here is actually a female and subsequent demands to see photographic proof from people who, without a shred of irony post on inflatechan anonymously:This is the internet how do you know anything is true, how do you know the reverse isn't true and I'm not a girl masquerading as a guy? How do you know Luther isn't a one-eyed hairy yellow monster? How do you know Bob King isn't actually Kim Jung-Il? How will seeing a few photos change your mind? More importantly, given very few of us will ever meet each other and our relationships exist purely in cyberspace, why do you care? Why do you want the illusions we've built up to be shattered? Illusions that not just you but everyone else benefits from, but you got all butthurt and cast doubt over the whole thing because you think the illusions are there purely as a 'trap' to catch people out.
Maybe female X is actually a 43 year-old biker guy in a hut in Nebraska, or maybe X really is a 21 year old brunette chick from Connecticut with an inflation fetish. How would you know either way? Maybe X is in fact a girl but isn't quite as young, or outgoing, or attractive as you have pictured in your head because she likes being the hot girl that all the guys flock to and she can't be this in real life. I can pretty much guarantee that X can't really inflate like a balloon in the way you imagine it though, so why care about whether any of your other shared illusions are real? Are you really exactly as you say you are? How do you even know who you are? Even if you aren't lying about yourself you're probably not sharing photos of yourself with your fellow inflationists and I can hazard a guess that your personality online is a little different to what it is offline, mainly just because you're less inhibited online.
The second reason the internet is so popular (or perhaps even the first), behind the fact it is such a valuable source of information and communication, is that it is completely virtual, the rules that tie us down in our own lives, from those of physics to those of biology and society are completely absent here.
Now this may mean there is nothing stopping you from being a total knob-end. You can be as immature and belligerent and as puerile as you like and face no 'real' consequences. But of course if you act like this then people won't like you, real people (whether they're who they say they are or not)... and then they won't want to talk to you... push it too far and the community as a whole will stop liking you and you start to get banned from various places. So be a twat if you want to be... but you won't get anywhere near as much out of this community if you are one as opposed to if you aren't one. And if you do find yourself ostracised, then as ATG just said, 'man-up' you only have yourself to blame.
As for newbie, I think Lateralus, you're mixing her up with someone else. I do remember someone posting her a month or so ago that someone else pointed out was using the same name as someone they'd contacted elsewhere that turned out to be a teenage boy. Newbie's been here a lot longer than that.
Bravo! Bravo!
Only one person voiced their opinion that was less than favorable about the Newbie ordeal and she pretty much stated that, "As I offended some "people" I will no longer be posting here!"
No one was offended, so I don't understand her logic behind that.
That's all that happen and people are worried about the negativity on this site?
People, again I say this, it is the INTERNET!
We don't have some secret underground convention for our fetish where we'll all meet each other.
This logic only applies if you assume that Newbie is attached to the forum and gains something by providing the pictures.If her sharing her experiences only gets negative feedback then the sensible option is to just walk away. She loses nothing.
That's true rjp101, but I think most contributors to this site to get something back from it. We get comments and requests, which spur us on to produce more. Rarely are we so altruistic that we post stuff expecting nothing.
But Newbie has had lots of nice responses from people here and judging by the number of folks standing up for her, she was well liked. So by walking away she loses contact with those people here who praised what she was doing and responded to her comments.
I would agree with you if she only received derision, but that clearly wasn't the case.
How do you know Bob King isn't actually Kim Jung-Il?
Well sometimes I do get ronery... :wink:
Since my name keeps coming up in this thread I thought i'd speak up.
Newbie just happened to be the "final straw" as it where regarding the whole situation. My comment was more targeted at the general populous and feeling that there were far to many obvious boys playing sexy inflating girls.
Once again, I have nothing against this. But it should be left to the RP/Fantasy forum. Not posting far fetched stories about nearly exploding.
I was just tired of seeing poor guys swooning to these perhaps "fake" females.
I know if I was a straight guy, I wouldn't like to be getting it on with a 52 year old man who lives with 7 cats and RP's as a busty 22 year old blonde.
Lucky for me i'm not into inflating girls ;).
That being said, it's the internet. Like others I've been around since 1997 or so and I think us older users tend to view the forums a little differently to the newer crowd.
I guess I was just watching it from the outside. Seeing this Newbie person post over the top stories and make excuse after excuse about why no photos/video where taken was just getting on my nerves.
I inflate in suits all the time, but I don't see the point in posting/gloating about it unless I have some video or photos to show.
(When I do, I just get unappreciative comments such as - "Oh Wow! To bad it's not a girl, I wish it was a girl, Can you get a girl to inflate for us?"
Now that is disheartening to share media)
"She" could of handled the situation better. The FIRST sign of doubt and "she" just runs. That didn't help "her" case.
But, I assure you. They will be back in one form or another.
Cheers for those who understood where I was coming from. I really appreciate it.
I wasn't aiming to troll or ruin any ones fun. Just like to see honesty when it comes to so called "stories of fact"
Apologies if I ruined anyones "cough" happy funtime material.
But there should be plenty of media online for you until the next Newbie comes along.
When "she" does, just keep it to the correct forum next time ;)
Now cheer up! and Blowup! It's what we are here for right? :D
I do feel it's happening, partly because my recent post was unpopular and partly because i feel affection for Newbie, however unreal that may be. However, rathar than finding it annoying, it makes me wonder if it means we're gradually drifting towards the mainstream, because it might mean the number of people involved in this is now enough for there to be clear shades of involvement and extremity, such as the popping/non-popping debate. If that's true, it could mean that the less extreme end is becoming popular enough for it to be as "normal" as bondage or latex fetishism. In that case, who knows, we might end up with the likes of print magazines catering for us and relatively big budget films. I'm sure there's a downside to that too, probably among the more sexually conservative members of society.
I didn't even know i wasn't unique until i was about thirty in 1997 when i chanced to see someone's inflation fantasy written on a public toilet wall. That was how arcane this was back then. Sure, there was Willy Wonka but as far as i knew that was just my secret shame. Now it's more in the open, we probably have to deal with a bit of friction between people.
As far as I see this whole situation, It was simply an opinion that was blown out of proportion and taken to far.
Yet seeing someone leave forever is never beautiful.
Yet seeing someone leave forever is never beautiful.
This is very true.
You know, this discussion of the old days is, I think, not just nostalgia; because of the uncommon nature of the fetish I don't know that it was really all that widely-known ten-fifteen years ago, and so the community, when it developed, was much closer. I mean, hey, there's someone else who's as into spherical women as I am? I MUST BE FRIENDS WITH THEM, there's no telling how few of us there are and we should stick together.
But more recently the inflation fetish- and many other fetishes- have resources that are so widely available and easily accessible that the "community" is not a group of people brought together by this one unique thing as it is a multitude with this one thing in common. In that it's not much different from people of a particular political opinion, or people who like Star Trek (see the "Trekkers" vs. "Trekkies" conflict. I've lost many a good friend to it.).
Basically, when it's this smaller group, there's a serious sense of community despite the differences; but as that group grows, there's no reason for the group to become anything other than a microcosm of any other population with a single common interest.
And even within this community interests aren't necessarily shared! I've seen fierce responses to more uncommon variations of inflation (like foot, or head), and there's always a debate regarding popping. So it's almost like we don't all share the fetish upon a closer inspection, only in the broader terms of "some or all of a person's body gets bigger in some manner".
Ultimately I think that this is an inevitable effect of the ease of access and the wider spread of resources regarding this fetish and others. Although at times unpleasant, I think that in a larger sense it's healthier as a group to acknowledge that there are these differences between us; that no, I don't like that person and shouldn't have to; and that developing a thicker skin is not only better for internet relations, but will likely provide extra space within your body for expanding.
Maybe female X is actually a 43 year-old biker guy in a hut in Nebraska, or maybe X really is a 21 year old brunette chick from Connecticut with an inflation fetish.
As a side note, just for the record and completely off-topic from the rest of the thread, if anyone does happen to know of a 21-year-old chick (brunette or not) in Connecticut with an inflation fetish, I'd appreciate knowing about it. :P
As always...the community is what we make it. Like Bob, I'm an old-timer and I am also not pleased to see some of the hard attitudes on display around here lately. But I do feel you can only counteract that kind of thing with positive posts and set a better example.
Sometimes I snap at people too, but at the end of the day, I still ascribe to the belief that we are more alike than we are different, and that should be respected.
Since it's Christmas Day and I don't have a lot of time before the family wakes up, I'll just say this briefly:
Nobody should ever have to feel they have to prove anything on the Internet to a community of what is ultimately a bunch of Anonymous Internet Assholes. If you ever want any kind of photographic proof from me about anything, it ain't ever gonna happen (and I'm not a woman). Go ask Rex and Michelle Ryan about how associating their face with a fetish has worked for them in terms of PR and public opinion.
Getting all pissy about a woman not wanting to post photos of herself online is selfish, childish, and stupid. Get over it.
Missing the point as usual, Doubleintegral. Male or female was not the big question. Newbie repeated a story, this time with more outlandish detail than the first time, and claimed maybe five or six times in just one post to have "almost exploded." That sounds like the sort of teasing one would expect from a 900 number, yet those people who doubted the tale are assholes?
Ad hominem always reflects poorly on the user, making him look childish and stupid. "Get over it."
Missing the point as usual, Doubleintegral.
"As usual"? Do I "usually" miss the point? I would honestly like to know so I can straighten myself out.
I believe you missed my point as well. I never once called the doubters assholes (I have used the term "Anonymous Internet Asshole" as a generic term that describes EVERYBODY on the Internet, myself included, for a while now - just not on this forum), nor did I say that people shouldn't doubt stuff that they read. Quite the contrary - it's a good thing to have a healthy cynicism toward stuff you see on the Internet; otherwise those "dudes in Nigeria" would be even richer than they already are. I have been a doubter before myself, and have called bullshit on people on a number of occasions. Similarly, I have also had other people call bullshit on me more than once.
However, I have NEVER expected, NOR demanded, those upon whom I have called bullshit to provide any real proof of their actions, whether it be posting their real names, photos of themselves, etc. They post what they want, I believe it or don't, and we leave it at that. However, I would never expect or demand someone to do something that I myself wouldn't do, which is doing any of the stuff I mentioned above.
Again, I will reference the Rex/Michelle Ryan story. If they didn't capture video of Michelle Ryan's face in any of those foot fetish videos, I can almost guarantee you that no one would've ever known. Instead they showed her face and are now having to answer a bunch of questions. Why expect another woman within our community to possibly subject herself to uncomfortable questions by family members, friends, her employer, etc.?
Finally, I will admit that the whole newbie saga is probably bullshit, but I would argue that it has less to do with not posting pictures of "her"self and more to do with the outlandish stuff "she" did post.
man guys can't we give this a rest already?
I wish people would just stop worrying about it so much. Since when did a fantasy fetish require detective work? "Well, that story COULD be true, but we require incontrovertible proof!" is just as bad as "It's absolutely true and you're a jerk for doubting it!"
I mean honestly, what the hell? Some of us are pornographers and all of us are patrons of pornography, and pornography isn't supposed to be collections of verifiable anecdotes, it's supposed to be absurd and fictional. Since when did material designed to get a person aroused require belief or disbelief? It just IS, so just take it at face value and get what you came here for. If you believe it's true, well then, there you go - if you believe it's false, treat it like a piece of fiction.
My point is, don't kid yourselves here, you're here because expansion is a sexually exciting concept, and that should be the end of it. Whether people are what they claim to be on the internet is irrelevant, because there's ultimately no way to prove or disprove it beyond meeting them in real life.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
People do want reality though. Just as there's a difference between masturbation and sexual intercourse, there's a difference between fantasy inflation and the "real" thing. The reason for the quotes is that i suspect that i at least have some kind of distorted perception regarding what happens when i force air into myself, so i might imagine i'm either bigger or smaller than i really am. If someone underwent that, it would be honest but distorted.
Also, i'm sure we all find certain words and phrases to be sexual triggers, and "almost exploded" is likely to be one of them, so repeating it could be a turn on for the writer and the reader.
100% agree with you. The vast majority of the people on here are fine, but a few seem to have this God complex to themselves where their own fetishes and interests are perfectly normal and any deviation is perverted and ripe for mocking. This decline has been sharp and it makes me dread to see how people will be petty in the various discussions.
I want you to shave your beard, nail it to a frisbee, and fling it over a rainbow