Would you support a DeviantArt walkout?

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 00:58

#2

Inflate123

DeviantArt has generated lots of anguish very little tolerance and respect.

Why are we on DeviantArt anyway? If they don't want us, what do we have to prove by staying?

Here's an idea: Let's get the hell out of there, en masse. Let's stay here and upload our stories and images to the place where they are welcomed. BodyInflation.org can be our new HQ. It should be anyway. Conversation and content are both strong here.

Let's pick a day and just GO. (November 21 was the day the first manned hot air balloon flight took place--but I'm thinking something in the next week or two.) Just remove all your stuff from DA that day, post a final journal entry and say "I'm gone to bodyinflation.org--meet me there."

I am totally down for this. They will see it as a victory for them, that they chased the pervs away. We will see is as a victory for us, establishing a community they can't break. Those who care will follow. Those who don't will have to find a new minority group upon which to pick.

Seriously. Do we need them? Let's do this.

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Tue, 09/13/2005 - 01:39

#3

catafracture

well... I have to say I can't think of any logical reason to stay, but at the same time something just doesn't feel right about the idea to me... It might just be that I don't much like needing to seperate the furry inflation stuff from the non furry stuff from the the things that are just strange enough that I don't want them where people who know me offline would look.

For now I think I'd vote no. I haven't really had any problems with DA except for the occasional request pest, but depending on where things go to in the future I may need to change that...

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 01:49

#4

Tinmible

Call me blind or whatever, but I hardly ever see these flamewars and all this anguish. Is it really that bad? Are they strictly forum related? If so, that makes sense cause I avoid that part of DA like the plague. Not for that reason, but because of the spam and pointless topics.

From what I can imagine, I think the walkout could be a bit unfair to Luther. I really doubt he has the bandwith to support all the drawings and traffic that a walkout/transfer would generate. I doubt this place is a magic utpoia that will last forever.

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 02:16

#5

Archangel_Dread...

Well, I can think of a few reasons not to:

1. You couldn't possibly get all the inflation artists to join it.
2. What Tin said about bandwidth on this site. I have a hard enough time as is getting into it.
3. Most of the promblems would follow the artist to here.
4. It would take forever for LVK to look through all the submission that would be coming in.
5. Some artists don't draw just inflation, like myself, DeviantART lets you post whatever you want (within reason). If we all come here, all we can post is inflation work.

So many inflation drawings lack flow/life, they are just a girl standing around with a hose stuck somewhere and large whatevers.

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 04:59

#6

Omoikane

I have yet to see any complaints about my inflation art on DA, so I don't really have a reason to leave it. Heh, I'll probably get complaints if I draw some shonen-ai or yaoi.

Plus, I only started my accont like a couple weeks ago, so I can't say much about anything yet.

(And if anyone is interested my account is "Ikimasu" )

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 05:51

#7

nator

Nah. My art is too crappy.
and Fmsu is on DA, so... yeah.
If there was another kind of site, like a InflationArt.com or something, I guess.

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 06:18

#8

Blacklist

Off the top of my head, I can think of two good reasons to get out of DA:
1. General people that don't understand, and answer with flames/idiotic nonsense.
2. Mangapunksai

Caution: this user is a new guy in training.

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 10:39

#9

DragonRift

I don't post inflation art period on my DA account. It's kept pretty clean, so I see no real reason to run off and ditch them.

That's just me. :P

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 15:32

#10

Archangel_Dread...

Blacklist wrote:

Off the top of my head, I can think of two good reasons to get out of DA:
1. General people that don't understand, and answer with flames/idiotic nonsense.
2. Mangapunksai

1. I have seen people, who don't understand, respond to them with more idioticy than flames. I find them more amusing that anything else.

2. You think that we should stop posting there because of one person? Is it just me, or does that make seem like we're a bunch of spineless individuals?

I will repeat what has been said many times before. The main problems in the inflation community are from within the community.

So many inflation drawings lack flow/life, they are just a girl standing around with a hose stuck somewhere and large whatevers.

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 15:52

#11

deleted_20091014

As far as I am aware, DA staff have been very supportive of us whenever we have been flamed, I only ever saw a flaming of an inflation artist when I went looking for one after hearing of the problem, it all seems to have blown over now. I don't really see any good reason to stage a mass walkout of a service that allows us to be who we are while posting massive amounts of inflation art and stories to their servers.

Also most of the people who were flamed during that period of flaming were determined to stay put and not let a minority chase them away.

Tue, 09/13/2005 - 22:47

#12

Wren

Inflate123 wrote:

DeviantArt has generated lots of anguish very little tolerance and respect.
Why are we on DeviantArt anyway? If they don't want us, what do we have to prove by staying?

Here's an idea: Let's get the hell out of there, en masse. Let's stay here and upload our stories and images to the place where they are welcomed. BodyInflation.org can be our new HQ. It should be anyway. Conversation and content are both strong here.

Let's pick a day and just GO. (November 21 was the day the first manned hot air balloon flight took place--but I'm thinking something in the next week or two.) Just remove all your stuff from DA that day, post a final journal entry and say "I'm gone to bodyinflation.org--meet me there."

I am totally down for this. They will see it as a victory for them, that they chased the pervs away. We will see is as a victory for us, establishing a community they can't break. Those who care will follow. Those who don't will have to find a new minority group upon which to pick.

Seriously. Do we need them? Let's do this.

Ideally what you would want is a server, lots of bandwidth, gallery software similar to DeviantArts (I'm sure a similar software package is floating around the net somewhere), and a means of generating revenue to pay the bandwidth bills without charging visitors (or artists) for the service.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see bodyinflation.org moving in that direction. That kind of bandwidth would probably require an ambitious entrepeneur-type inflation fan. Fortunately, there seems to be more of those springing up these days so maybe one of them would be interested. :)

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Wed, 09/14/2005 - 03:47

#13

LutherVKane

I suppose I should weigh in on this...

While in my own delusions of grandeur I sometimes fancy this place as the central nexus of online body inflation, there are several things which make this impractical. OK, it's really just one thing, and the rest are just me being curmudgeonly.

The big thing is bandwidth. I predict that at some point in the next five years or so there will be sufficient upgrades to the local infrastructure such that I could afford a nice fat pipe to serve this site off of. Until then, I don't think I could support the traffic that a DA exodus would bring.

Then there are other issues. There are certain explicit things that I won't post here. Anyone under 18 would be shown the door, and I know there are plenty of young 'uns on DA. I'd probably have to bring on a volunteer staff, and that would likely prove complicated.

DA's more reactive than proactive about censoring stuff, so it provides more freedom for the artists. And folks can post their non-inflation material there.

I say go ahead and use DA for the free web presence. It's a very utilitarian thing. It brings a certain amount of grief, but it's also a place where artists can fairly easily post their work for display. Some people seem to be dodging the abuse, and it's certainly a worthwhile forum for them. And I think we can stand pretty well against the the nimrods who dare show their insolence.

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Wed, 09/14/2005 - 05:30

#14

Inflate123

Fair enough. I basically keep my stuff on DA because I don't want the inflation folks there to think that I am not supporting the community--but I would just as soon see the community exist on another site. I hate the idea of being somewhere we're not wanted and I still get that impression.

And just so everybody understands, breaking bodyfinflation.org was not my intent. Had I the money, I would buy a nice obvious URL like inflationists.com and set up shop, or simply provide the space for this site to exist. Next person that wins the lottery, this is your task. :)

Arch, I gotta repeat: Do we care if someone thinks we are a bunch of spineless individuals? Dunno about you but I am not really concerned with "winning people over" who mock us in the first place, you know? I always wanted my little webpage to be a billboard--a friendly greeting for any of the lost souls who were curious and desperate to find other people like them. Those are the people I want to reach. Not hopless cases like mangapunksai or the close-minded folks who complain about art they don't understand. I don't feel the need to reach them or prove that I have a spine, because I do not believe we have a serious chance of changing hearts or minds in those cases.

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Wed, 09/14/2005 - 09:16

#15

funkyobrian

Sorry, there are too many people on DA that I enjoy who AREN'T into inflation but I'm friends with them and they're friends with me. Breaking off with the entire community because of a few flamers is not logical at all for me.
Besides I'm not high-key enough for the flamers to egg me on and I'm fine with that. Any flames I did get I just turned the other cheek.

Wed, 09/14/2005 - 19:22

#16

Fukureru-Shogun

I'm with Inflate123 on the whole feeling unwanted thing- I mean, I could care less what these people think of me, but for me, it seems pointless to stay somewhere I am unwanted.

I mean, I only have 3 stories up there, so its really no big deal one way or the other. I also don't have any non expansion stuff there, or I really don't participate in the 'community' enough to really miss much, so maybe its just easy for me to say.

Wed, 09/14/2005 - 22:46

#17

Archangel_Dread...

Where exactly did I say we should butt-kiss? That is far from what I was saying. I was saying that we need to get the "we are here to stay" additude and if they don't like us, then they should either shut up or leave.

Another way to put it is, we shouldn't let them bother us, they're the ones with the problems, not us. Lord know, there's a ton of stuff on that site that I don't like one bit, but, I don't say anything about it.

So many inflation drawings lack flow/life, they are just a girl standing around with a hose stuck somewhere and large whatevers.

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 00:49

#18

DwarfPriest

IMHO, the place is good to post art. Period. What else we need? "Not feeling wanted"? Check the foruns. For EACH kind of art, there are hundreds of people that dislikes it. There are many more people that dislikes anime than people that dislikes inflation.
And people like MangaPunkSai cant be taken serious when she complains about inflation, because *ITS DONE TO WOMEN* and plays with her male character in all twisted ways, and shen she says its unrealistic, when she draws angels, demons, and others unrealistic stuff.

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 01:55

#19

Korota

I've only ever seen Mangapunksai complain about expansion stuff once in that deviation she did.

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 03:14

#20

Wren

Hmm...Ok, I already replied with my thoughts on the idea of an inflation version of D.A., but I guess I will also weigh in on the whole D.A. issue.

A boycott of D.A. will not work because so long as the people who actually run D.A. don't mind inflation being there, inflation artists will always be there. The only way to get all inflation artists off of D.A. would be if the D.A. corporate structure decided to ban the genre entirely...And while perhaps that might happen someday, I don't see that as something we'd want to encourage them to do.

Most of the people who don't like inflation are content to leave us alone. The only reason D.A. is different is because there's a fair chance that someone browsing D.A. will come across artwork that they absolutely can't stand. Or worse, there is a pretty good chance that artists will hear from a fan who asks them to draw something that the artist can't stand. The monster that is mangapunksai may well have been created by an overzealous inflation fan hounding her to draw an inflated version of one of her characters.

Now, while I do believe that a boycott would fail, I still think an inflation version of D.A. would be a worthwhile project. It just may not be the easiest project in the world...although things seem to be easier nowadays than they used to be. I noticed furnation is down (again) and begging for money (again) because they pay $350 a month for over a Terabyte per month of bandwidth. WTF I was paying $500 a month for a fraction of that bandwidth for wren-spot. Is bandwidth that much cheaper these days?

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Thu, 09/15/2005 - 03:46

#21

Tinmible

I didn't mind that comic that Mangapunksai did. It was pretty amusing. People are entitled to opinions.

What bothered me is that he/she is a moderator/admin. You think a person of authority over a service would know better than to boycott or put down a "genre" of art. Seems like a really dumb buisness move. Like a hotel manager saying "I hate it when blonde people stay at my hotel". Talk about making people feel unwelcome.

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 04:35

#22

Fukureru-Shogun

I was unaware there was even a comic about it...

Regardless, I suppose what I ment to say is that Deviantart hasn't even really given me a reason to stay. I have a handful of people whatching my page and all, but I'm fairly certian more people who want to see my stories probably saw them here as opposed to there. I'll stick around, because I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face...But I'd probably leave if anyone one else made a conscious effort to do so.

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 15:19

#23

DwarfPriest

MangaPunkSai also said she don't like Furries, so I don't pay much attention to her anyway, only when she tries to dish at the foruns, then I just make a reply, and she leaves the thread. lol

A inflationART would be an interesting idea, but as it was said, it would be complex and costly to do. How the guys at VCL keep their site up?

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 16:35

#24

deleted_20091014

Even with an inflationART, judging from the replies to this thread it would split the community, DA currently provides the largest collection of inflation art artists and fans we have, Luther provides us with our main forum and a safe house but I doubt if anyone within the community could provide what DA provides.

Those of us with 25+ deviations might really not be bothered to move them all to a new location. There would also be a worry among the less well known artists that by moving they would be giving up their fanbase.

The last thing I want to see is our community divided between those loyal to DA and a rebel faction (hehe I make it sound so cool and political) who want to set up on their own. There is a good chance that would be flamers in either side will start a civil war, accusing the other side of various wrongdoings and it would escalate out of control.

For this reason I think it would be best to stay with DA until such a time that the authorities themselves are opposed to us. Mangapunksai is only a gallery mod and has no real power outside her own genre.

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 18:51

#25

Fukureru-Shogun

Whoo! Rebel Faction! :P

I would think that there wouldn't be so many internal politics involved within the BI community...but I could be wrong.

Its a nice thought, but I guess its impratical.

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 19:03

#26

deleted_20091014

Well the thing I thought with internal politics is that we have grown into a very large community, far from a small close knit group of people who know each other we are a diverse group of people who share a common fetish and little else. There are differences in the way the fetish is manifested so that we have subcommunities and the like and there are all kinds of personalities represented. As we have seen not evryone in our community is willing to play along in everyone's best interests, artists have been flamed by other inflationists before,and if we were to split up as a community like this, some people (who are dickheads) would probably start flaming, and before we knew we'd all be embroiled.

Thu, 09/15/2005 - 19:44

#27

Wren

Carnatic, if there were an "inflationART" and DeviantART co-existing, I doubt that most of us would mind having to bookmark two sites instead of one in order to find all of the inflation artists. And I seriously doubt it would be any great devastating schism, just another alternative that some artists might be more comfortable with, and it would be up to them to make the choice.

I would never discourage any inflation fan who wanted to put up his or own website, and that goes for paysites too. Inflation entrepeneurs are the key to the future of this fetish, so that someday we will no longer have to scrounge for material--there'll be adult inflation websites, videos, magazines, etc springing up everywhere. Entrepeneurs like Crazy Sam Xavier and Danni Ashe who helped made big boob porn so easy to come by these days. :D

As for Mangapunksai, DwarfPriest pretty much has her pegged. I would respect her more if all she said was that she doesn't like inflation art. Instead, she tries to rationalize why she doesn't like it, but is too blind to see that some of her laundry list of reasons to hate inflation art can be applied to her own art as well. In her editorial cartoon, she portrayed all inflation fans as "feeders" which is a totally different fetish entirely, and even most feeders don't practice their fetish in real life, only as fantasy. That cartoon, with the way it misrepresented an entire genre and the real life artists who work in that genre, did more real life damage to real people than any inflation art ever has done. It was completely irresponsible and she has no business having any official position at D.A.

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Fri, 09/16/2005 - 01:24

#28

Tinmible

Wren wrote:

As for Mangapunksai, DwarfPriest pretty much has her pegged. I would respect her more if all she said was that she doesn't like inflation art. Instead, she tries to rationalize why she doesn't like it, but is too blind to see that some of her laundry list of reasons to hate inflation art can be applied to her own art as well. In her editorial cartoon, she portrayed all inflation fans as "feeders" which is a totally different fetish entirely, and even most feeders don't practice their fetish in real life, only as fantasy. That cartoon, with the way it misrepresented an entire genre and the real life artists who work in that genre, did more real life damage to real people than any inflation art ever has done. It was completely irresponsible and she has no business having any official position at D.A.

Ah there, you said it much better than I ever could :).

I too found it ironic that she was making fun of fantasy art while she portrayed herself as some horned demon in her comic. :roll:

Fri, 09/16/2005 - 03:55

#29

funkyjrtb

i may not have any inflation work up at my devART account, although i do have one or two more fetish themed pictures there, i still may not completely fit in to this conversation, but i feel compelled to put my input in:

If all the inflation artists suddenly just packed up, and left devART, how would the devART community suffer? I don't think they would, as to most of the people there, it'd be a "good ridance" sigh, then they'd just go on complaining about nude daily deviations, anime artists, and the furry genre*.

In all honesty, every type of artist on that site has it's flamer. Amazingly talented people suddenly find themselves trolled. I think the problem is that the situation here is being blown out of praportion a bit. Yes, there is a target on inflation art, but we are not alone. It makes more of a statement to stay put, and put up with the occassional persistant troll, then try to organize a headache of a pull out that wouldn't even probably dent the devART community.

just my 2 cents.

awittyname.deviantart.com

Fri, 09/16/2005 - 06:00

#30

Inflate123

Archangel_Dreadnought wrote:

Where exactly did I say we should butt-kiss?

Where exactly did I say you said we should butt-kiss? Easy, partner. Please just read my words, not between them.

I think my intentions were very much misinterpreted: I was not proposing splitting up the DA community so much as uniting the inflation community. Rebel Faction does not help and I certainly was not suggesting such a thing.

Shogun put it eloquently for me: DA hasn't given me a reason to stay. Those of you with many more works on display are likely (and generally are saying in this thread) that you feel differently. I don't have the volume of uploads that breeds any kind of loyalty there.

I just wish we could find a permanent home on our own terms.

And is it me or did I just hear CattyN lurk..? :)

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Sat, 09/17/2005 - 16:54

#31

DwarfPriest

Inflate123 wrote:

And is it me or did I just hear CattyN lurk..? :)

It's just you. CattyN is busy flamming artists at DA again...

Mon, 10/10/2005 - 03:25

#32

Ataru

If anything, being flamed on DA is like a rite of passage. -Laughs, then disappears again-

I was told to change my signature. So I did.

Tue, 10/11/2005 - 22:05

#33

Mentalyinsane

Blacklist wrote:

Off the top of my head, I can think of two good reasons to get out of DA:
1. General people that don't understand, and answer with flames/idiotic nonsense.
2. Mangapunksai

Whats wrong w/ Mangapunksai?

The name's Noitalfin, http://noitalfin.deviantart.com/

Tue, 10/11/2005 - 23:00

#34

Tinmible

Mentalyinsane wrote:

Whats wrong w/ Mangapunksai?

While the whole incident has blown over really, she's a moderator/admin (A person with authority at Deviantart) who expressed her hypocritical dislike of "inflation art". It rallied a lot of haters that caused flames and bitterness.

Wed, 10/12/2005 - 01:16

#35

Fukureruba

What really is the point of DA anyway? I have failed to grasp the attraction.

It seems to me like too public a forum for art with a narrow fan interest like inflation art.

Wed, 10/12/2005 - 01:27

#36

Tinmible

Fukureruba wrote:

What really is the point of DA anyway? I have failed to grasp the attraction.

Free image hosting. The place also gives the ability to viewers to leave feedback on your works, good or bad (per your request).

Thu, 10/13/2005 - 23:31

#37

harrisonford08

Fukureruba wrote:

What really is the point of DA anyway? I have failed to grasp the attraction.
It seems to me like too public a forum for art with a narrow fan interest like inflation art.

Lots of feedback. Instant posting. Rules of conduct that for the most part protect us. Ability to be notified as soon as watched artists put out work. It's really an awesome system. And the flaming is pretty sporadic so I could care less.

http://harrisonford08.deviantart.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ijartist/

Wed, 10/19/2005 - 01:33

#38

Fukureruba

Well I finally got to see and read Mangapunksai's cartoon and diatribe about inflation art on DA for the first time today (for some reason I haven't been able to get a good connection to it since this whole thing came up).

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. She is entitled to her own opinion and has every right to voice it. Her being an administrator is mostly irrelavent. If anything, she and her little clique malign themselves by displaying their close-mindedness, for the world to see, on a forum which prides itself on being open-minded. I'm content with the fact that Mangapunksai is a lesser person than me. I'm indifferent to the subject of her art, but I have no desire to villainize it.

While I'm sure a lot of you were offended by some of the comments made, ya'll need to quit taking this so seriously and get some perspective, it's not a life-or-death matter (and trust me, I've gotten a totally new perspective on what a life-or-death matter REALLY IS in the last couple months). This is an absurd, silly, offbeat interest that we share and expecting only but a few people to understand it, is asking too much. We need to be nonchalant about the inevitable trolls that are going to take shots at us (I'm trying to apply the same "go-to-hell" attitude I've cultivated with my shitty boss to the rest of my life). I'm not really sure a lot of people on this forum understand why they like this subject themselves...I know I certainly don't.:?

By the way, I got a chuckle out of her little comic. Seems she doesn't understand the difference between weight gain and inflation...but then again, a lot of people in the "community" don't get it either. :P

P.S. I still don't see DA's attraction. I get all the things you mention right here, I don't get lost in the crowd and BI.org has an audience who shares the same (or similar, anyway) interest.

Wed, 10/19/2005 - 04:32

#39

Arcanumbot

I'll leave and come here.

Flawless Victory

Wed, 10/19/2005 - 15:44

#40

Fukureruba

Arcanumbot wrote:

I'll leave and come here.

Well, don't get me wrong...I'm not advocating that. It's just how I feel.

Wed, 10/19/2005 - 21:12

#41

Tinmible

Fukureruba wrote:

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.

Quote:

By the way, I got a chuckle out of her little comic. Seems she doesn't understand the difference between weight gain and inflation...but then again, a lot of people in the "community" don't get it either. :P

Yeah that was a part of the fuss. :P

Her being a hypocrite on her complaint was another.

If memory serves, her first part of the complaint was that inflation wasn't possible. Well duh. It's fantasy. Just like how she depicts herself as a demon character. Next it changed to something about saying inflation is nothing but pinups* which is bad and must be stopped (in her opinion, not DAs)- as it is degrading to herlself as a woman. Yet someone pointed out that she's done pictures of posing half naked men. She says it's ok for her to draw them because she's not into guys. :roll:

For the record:
I don't hate her or nothing, or boycott her work. Yes, people are entitled to opinions. Hating inflation is to be expected. It's an absurd intrest I agree. If you're complaining about something, take a look in the mirror first and make sure you're not the pot calling the kettle black.

Quote:

P.S. I still don't see DA's attraction. I get all the things you mention right here, I don't get lost in the crowd and BI.org has an audience who shares the same (or similar, anyway) interest.

Understandable. Different strokes I guess. I don't get much feedback around here. The rare times I did, it was pleasant, but a majority were either low marks with no reason given and IMs along the lines of "draw big boobies instead". Strange that I've received more feedback and met more people into my paticular intrest at DA than I did here. Weird. Go figure.

And no, I'm not hating on BI.org. I love BI.org. Thank you Mr. Kane for this website.

*( I agree, it is)

Fri, 10/21/2005 - 06:19

#42

Inflate123

I didn't even mind her criticism in the comic itself. That part was clever. The resulting message posts around and about the comic is where the torches and pitchforks came out, and the ignorance really showed through. Mangapunksai encouraged it all, as well.

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Mon, 10/24/2005 - 05:02

#43

Fukureru-Shogun

The whole anti-inflation thing seems to have died down, honestly...still, I see a lot of "haters" in DA, who complain about Yaoi, Furries, whatever...I just don't understand. If it weren't for all the free-ness, I don't think anyone here would be there.

Fri, 10/28/2005 - 17:33

#44

CattyN

As much as I struggle with DA and sometimes have frustrations with people there, I still like DA as a place to post. Part of it comes from the fact I have a 56k and yet DA loads almost instantly (i've tried SheezyArt and it's slow as molasses). Being able to visit and view stuff instantly is a big part of why I stay. Although I admit the comments sometimes get nausiating and repetative, it serves much better at hearing people's feedback than if it were posted someplace like this.

No offence to this site, but I tend to stay away because of how long it takes to do something as simple as click on a forum thread. I even tried posting pictures here and failed because it wouldn't load. Not to mention the numerous times it's been down temporarily. None of this is criticism against LVKane, who I am happy is still trying his best to run this site and keep it up, but the fact is that DA just runs smoother. (edit: case in point, i just tried to post this message and it crashed on me. lol)

I think another part of the reason we're having a problem with DA is because of it's name. The title "Deviant Art" doesn't mean sexual or fetishy in nature. It was created for the Skins Community to 'deviate' from the normal Windows/Apple Skins. I think that many of us were confused by the title and the backlash we got from posting more adult or fetishy works was shocking and surprising.

I also admit that DA is not the best place to post stories and i've seen many a writer get discouraged there.

I've only had one encounter with cencorship, and it was a valid reason.

I dunno... I think the accesability and ease-of-use is one of the major factors that we've all sorta swarmed in there. I really havn't seen any flame-wars since NekoKawai decided to leave us alone and that was almost a year ago.

Would it be great to have an inflation-art-posting-community on it's own? Definately and you can be sure that I would join in a heart-beat. It would be even greater if THIS site became the art-thingy. But unless that happens soon, i think many of us will stick with DA for a while longer...

Fri, 10/28/2005 - 17:55

#45

Vanilla-Danyoll

Hmmm I Find the site Okay, I run off of firefox so i guess its fast enough, and I will be posting my art on here as soon as i get my scanner, best I can do for now are sprites and there practicly useless without them being animated, I only just made my avatar. I hink it looks good.

"The bigger the better? The fatter the better? Hey why am I the one being inflated!?"
*Glug Glug Glug*

Fri, 10/28/2005 - 23:57

#46

Mogman

I've just read that comic thread for the first time...and it made me realise how dire the whole witch-hunt against inflationists was...It is a relief that it has died down, but it flamers are part of the reason I stopped drawing inflation art...although I didn't take the comic very seriously, and they did nothing more than feed my inner daemons further (not a good thing for me).

There is not one single inflation image i've found on DA that is real, and the few that are real are not even that unrealistically or dangerously huge. I know the flaming has died down, but much like in battles...the enemy needs time to reload for the next barrage...and if anymore ringleaders like sai pop-up...well the community is probably going to take one hell of a pounding on DA.

Sorry if this rant is mis-informed or just plain not needed, but I don't like it when I see things like this, no matter how old they are.

Sat, 10/29/2005 - 06:18

#47

Porus

Does anyone have a link to the comic?

Fri, 11/18/2005 - 04:26

#48

Wren

I'm feeling the webmaster itch a little bit again. Trying to decide whether or not I want to scratch it...especially since bandwidth seems a lot cheaper now than it was when I ran wren-spot. Does anyone know where I can buy "art community" software like deviantART's? There are enough deviantART copy cats around that I suspect some programmer must have decided to sell a similar software package by now.

Please visit my Body Inflation Fetish Fantasy Clip Store:

http://clips4sale.com/studio/52559

Fri, 11/18/2005 - 06:22

#49

Blacklist

Porus wrote:

Does anyone have a link to the comic?

http://www.deviantart.com/view/10335398/

Sorry to stir this back up, but how can she get away with doing this? DA has a rule that discrimination against any people(s) is/are not allowed. If you read some of her comments, she says some pretty nasty stuff there about us (at least, in my eyes).

Caution: this user is a new guy in training.

Fri, 11/18/2005 - 22:18

#50

darth_clone19

I wouldnt go for it, since we are the real deviants. And, am sorry for whoever here who falls into the group, am opposed because then this page wont be for BI only anymore (not that I think others should be excluded)I mean, I only know a handful of artists that do what i like, which as the community grew, plain ol BI has a lot of other little subtlties new artists incorporate i dont really go for. Is just that I could always rely on this page when I felt everyone had their own tastes. But, I guess that if things have to change, Ill have to deal.

- Read my stories: darth-clone19.deviantart.com

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