Inflation-Chan a good idea?

Damn, BodyInflation sucks you know! I can't find any pictures of beautiful NAKED balloon girls. I haven't see any nipple or pussy amongst all the vanilla stuff of this idiot site. For an obviously illogical reason, sexually arousing elements seem to be censored here, although this is an ADULT web site! Moreover, most of the drawings show gigantic spherical fat girls (I had enough), clothed belly-inflated teasers (because without those clothes we could enjoy the sight of their wonderful pulpy plumpy bodies) or some freaking weirdo's inventions (head inflation, for example, god, you gotta be a real perverted mongolian to ejaculate with that). Tell me why doesn't any artist wanna draw at least ONE sexually explicit pic? To me, the reason is that they're all mentally retarded weirdos who censor themselves.

By the way, I have a girlfriend!

Pooltoy

The linear progression in its use of exclamation points is pure artistry.

i can't speak for anyone else here, but i find it a challenge to keep the work clean.

And, if you want to see some pussy, pooltoy, the 2 fastest and easiest ways to get that, is by getting a girlfriend, or buying a cat; not by calling people providing you with FREE material "mentally retarded freakin' weirdos!!!!".

And I was not aware that this was an adult website. I thought it was just a small haven for those whom enjoy a strange fetish, not a balloon girl fuckfest.

I have a good idea. This other image board called 7898chan has several very specific image boards. Right now they have a survey up, and in it, you can request new boards. I filled it out and requested an inflation board, so maybe some more of us could fill out one of these surveys and get an inflation board.

If you continue to do so, I shall have no choice but to unleash the Ban Hamster. He sits caged for now, but I can see by the way he gnashes his pointy little teeth that he desperately thirsts for the blood of miscreants.

Oh no! The Ban Hamster! I don't wanna diiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee! LOL suckers!

I agree dragon, although I must say, I like naked breasts on an inflated woman, but I dont ask for them. If they are there, fine, if not...why do I care? With a weirdo fetish like this one, going back to casual fantasies seems like a waste.

I want to say, I voted yes by mistake.

If he is banned, how am I to remember there are more pathetic people than me out there?

Grate idea thay have more adult stuff that might fix pooltoys complant some where to go just for porn.
But I'd mutch rather not this sight change.

To clarify:

Yes, this is an adult site. When you register, you have to click through one of those statements verifying that you're at least 18 years old. This is a fetish site, and really not a place where children should be poking around.

I'm sure there are some young folk who don't pay any mind to that, but should it come to my attention that any particular site member here is a minor, then I'd have to act. Having kids on a fetish site is a Very Bad Thing.

That having been said, just because this is an adult site doesn't mean it has to be a den of smut. "Adult" does not necessary translate into exposed genitals and nether orifices. In this case, it mainly means that the site is a place where people can engage in frank and open discussion about a rather odd fetish. Not really porn by many standards, but not kid stuff either.

Back on topic:

I'm not sure I fully understand this inflation-chan idea. What would an inflation-chan have that isn't provided by a regular discussion forum?

Well, I dunno about it Dos'nt, i'd say it's more rare than anything. I know i always have a hell of a time getting honest feedback on my stories, but every now and then, someone does come along who gives you good feedback.

When I comment on stories Im not as vague as when I comment on art. I know shit about art, but if I really like, I TRY to let the artist know what it is that appeals to me about how he did things. But I do know about writing, and I can comment with a little more ground. Although, sometimes whats good about an inflation story has nothing to do with writing skill, but the idea. Id say Inflate123, Luther, IHM and Carnatic, to name a few, are people who know how to write, they just happen to write for a fetish.

You are missing one thing. Not all of us like every type of inflation story, and even inside that it varies.

I do agree inflation stories are not what they used to be, in both style and theme, sadly, but most are newcomers. The ones already establish dont dissapoint.

Getting good criticism is tricky. People are often afraid of discouraging the author. From a reader's standpoint, an author who continues to write mediocre stories is better than one who write none at all.

You're not likely to get good feedback from random people. It helps to foster some kind of relationship where you get some understanding and trust. You have to be able to communicate clearly and understand each other in order for the exchange to be useful. Understand that "I don't like it" doesn't necessarily mean "It's not good".

Most importantly, it only works if the author wants to improve. If you don't specifically state that you're looking for feedback on your weak points, people will just assume that you don't want to hear it. I very rarely give any kind of critique unless asked.

Its not so much that the stories are bad- I certianly cannot laude my own work as masterpieces - its just that many show little or no effort.

I've seen stories set up like Instant Message conversations, or ones that invloved weight gain where it is literally only the girl involved counting the pounds she's gaining and having sound words like "munch" mixed in.

If I felt people were trying hard, or putting effort into a story I felt was sub-par, it would be different, but I don't even think that some people today are even trying.

*-sighs and nods lightly-*

But keep in mind that yes...there are some medicoric stories going on from newcomers but they're new...they're probably greenhorns in the inflation writing. That's understandable and that's where it helps to get criticism to maybe help that person adjust the writing style.

I've read some where the stories aren't paced well and the dialogue doesn't show off the emotion that the character when that character speaks. It feels dull. That's just some things that I can pick up as I'm a writer myself. I'm constantly working pn my writing style and trying to make myself different from others.

But there are some newcomers that have a natural talent in writing. Heh.

I have to say though that the saddest thing I read throughout this whole thread has to be: "I don't read stories."

I know...it's fine that people don't want to read but ya know...it kind of brings the down the writer. Other than having fun writing...what's the point of writing as story if no one wants to read it? You're fine writing it but can it truly be valued to you when no one notices it or even cares? Is it because the story is too choppy or the characters are unappealing or is it the general feel or topic of the story? These are questions that a writer ask themselves not only to figure out why no one is reading the story but also to improve thyself in writing. What do I need to improve? Should I try to mold my characters a bit more differently? Should I try a more controversial topic to spice up an interest? What? What is it that'll make my readers interested in my story?

You can ask yourselves a lot of questions or not care at all but usually those that don't care about their writing don't continue at all since they weren't motivated to write in the first place and their performance shows in their poorly written story.

Anyhow...it can be just people are more lazy now and don't really care to read if there's a drawing to look at instead? I don't know but I question.

...Woo. So out of topic, eh? XD

Along these lines, what about this?

Takes a village to inflate a woman....thats catchy Inflate.

About not reading stories....the bulk of this fetish, for me, are stories, cuz drawings are too specific, and you instantly know if you dont like it. But a story you dont care for might have one or two things that make you say "well, at least this particular word in the inflation description fits me"

And stories and stories, whether they be literature, or fetish literature, literature is a huge part of society and our minds.

gokuson123, I'm gonna have to disagree :) Sure, a story can be jsut about inflation, I can write one right now.

Amy swallowed the pill, and suddenly felt helsef swelling up, larger and larger, untill she was a round ball. The end.

But I'm sure most people would say that's not a very good story. The people and settings are what make a story intresting, and more, as you say, arousing. If you care more about the girl, then when she's inflateing, you like it more. it's like have'nt a girl you have a crush on inflating, and one you've never seen before inflateing. Sure, both may be arousing, but the one with the girl you have a crush on is much more so, or at least in my opnion. And as for writeing for another person, I write for myself, and I show what i've written for myself to others, some like them, some don't, but I prefer to write for myself, i think you get better stories writeing for yourself and not others. But again, jsut my thoughts.

Dragon6860

Hmm...at least gokuson was honest and he/she/it said what he/she/it felt. That's his/her/it (I dunno)'s opinion and that's alright. That's how he/she/it feels. (Don't take that as an insult. I just don't know your gender. XD)

Though that does bring a thought to my mind. I wonder if that's how most people are now a days about stories since there's a ton of art to look around? Do they just really care less for stories? Is that how it is in this community now? I mean...this community has grown (no puns, please) over the years and I believe there's probably in the thousands now...a lot hiding in the shadows and keeping to themselves. That's fine. But does any of the other writers question that? I'm rather curious to hear what responses that question will get.

I like stories far better when I can find one I like -_- Thank god for Yahoo groups which have specific things. BTW DoubleIntegral, I have never ever gotten emotionaly attatched to a story character. Ever. If anything, the longer and deeper stories annoy me. I have stated my opinion, and you have perfectly picked apart it and attempted to throw it down. If you want to do that, take your idealistic views through email and complain there. I have no need to have a child replying to my post in a world with facts and truths, not "you can do whatever you want to do!". Just as money rules the world, writing has rules and laws which should be used. If you have a group, retain it's theme. Same thing with things such as using the definitions of words and logically applying them, not re-creating them and posting it on wikipedia (which is of no use to this world).

There are many ways of approaching writing. Here's my take:

The advice I give to all frustrated writers: write for yourself first and foremost. Only write for someone else if that someone else is a specific person who will actually offer feedback on what he/she wants to see in a story. Trying to write for the vast faceless audience is an unrewarding trip into madness. You never really know what the audience wants, you can only know the preferences of the most vocal of its members who may or may not be representative. Besides, if you only give the audience just what you think they want, then they're never going to get anything besides what you expect, and that's not terribly interesting. Unless, of course, you just assume that the audience wants the same thing you do, in which case you're really just writing for yourself anyway.

Fetish fiction is not fundamentally different from any other kind of fiction. You're just dealing with a particular subject. The goal it to evoke a reaction in the reader. Joy, fear, hate, affection, arousal, a quick wank, something. You need to make the reader care enough to continue to the next line.

Personally, I'm a big a fan of characters and character development. Inflation shouldn't be something that just happens, it happens within a particular context. It's that context that makes a given story unique and interesting. It's the difference between the stories you just read once and forget about and the stories you remember for years to come. I'd much rather write the latter type.

You can love the characters or you can hate them, but if you don't feel anything about them then there's far less concern about what's going to happen in the next paragraph. And why read a story if you don't care how it ends?

Same can be said of artists, they draw because they love to draw, they draw what they want to draw, and if you want then to draw something how you want it, you're S-O-L.

I wrote a story once, I got zero for feedback on it, so, I haven't writen one sence.

I'd like to clarify my comment about "as they develop as writers, you'll see their work expand beyond their personal tastes." I have always defended writers for writing what they are personally interested in, because as it's been said, you can't start anywhere else. But I do feel that you can address a wider audience if you so choose. It can be the same story, but the only difference is how you craft it.

Stephen King writes horror. Presumably he writes stories that he personally likes, that he would feel were satisfying if he were "just the reader." But he writes them in a way that they appeal to everybody else. Now, either King's sense of what is scary is naturally universal and he's figured it out, got a lock on it, OR he chooses to try to make it universal through word choice, setting, etc. He takse the time to get beyond the shock moments, even though they anchor the whole story, and build it up so everybody will be scared by it. That's the craft of writing. This formula applies to inflation stories too. And yes, you are totally free to skip to the descriptive parts. I often do, then backtrack to read the rest. Urges, you know.

Here's a bigger issue: If we agree that you should write for yourself with your own tastes in mind, and you don't get any feedback from the community on it (as AD mentioned), there is a chance that it's because nobody else "got" it the way you intended. And that silence is, in itself, a criticism that you can take or leave.

I want to be careful how I put this. This is not aimed at AD, because I agree 100% with his last comment. But over the years I have seen others complain about not getting feedback for their stories and they make threats about "stopping writing" and whatnot. Well...wait, why are you writing? If you're writing for yourself about what you want to read, then public reaction shouldn't get into it. And if you're intentionally writing for the public and the public doesn't react, maybe you're not writing what they want to read. Doesn't mean you should stop - means you should change to appeal to them. (Or not care.)

So yes, you gotta write what you feel passionate about, you've got to "write for you" - but it's the author's choice as to whether they want to play to the masses or not. But if the masses don't "get it" it's not their fault either, and it's not a personal attack. If you feel compelled to write, the existence of feedback should not deter that. And of course, if you ask for feedback, it should be given, particularly by those who are most critical of the "state of the nation."

By contrast, the audience's responsibility is to realize that not everything is written specifically for them. Culturally we're devolving into single-serving, just-for-you entertainment - cell phone covers, 99-cent iTunes purchases, narrowcasting, call it what you will. To apply that to our community, I say, bullshit. If I write a story about helium, and you don't "like" helium, well, tough. I didn't write it for you; I'd hoped other people would enjoy it, but clearly, you didn't. However, if you want to take that story, change all the "helium" to "Jell-O," save it to your hard drive and wank yourself dry, I don't mind. But it's not going to come customized from me. I'm not here to provide custom content on demand.

If a writer or artist in our community gives you a gift, you don't say "That gift sucked." But you can say "I think this part of the gift worked well, and I think this part needed work, and here's why." And that should also include realizing that your own personal preferences may have to be filtered for that.

Incoherent rant over. :)